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mike the snake 06-09-2014 09:16 PM
Possibly another reason Vettel was able to plant his foot down early, illegal traction control? Here's a vid of Webber's car.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxig8iM7jDU"]Traction Control ?? - YouTube[/ame]



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Originally Posted by cfusionpm (Post 1786733)
Also, the cars technically are faster, as their trap speeds are significantly higher. They have slightly slower lap times due to the decreased grip from downforce, which requires a lot more finesse from the drivers. One of the reasons Vettel steamed away with that kind of dominance was he could just plant his foot down super early and trust that his EBD or coanda EBD would give him the grip he needed to pull out of a corner (also they made significantly less torque in the low revs of the V8s).

strat61caster 06-10-2014 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1787688)
Possibly another reason Vettel was able to plant his foot down early, illegal traction control? Here's a vid of Webber's car.
FIA never did anything about it, they love touting their power and they're still in Ferrari's pocket, that's proof enough to me that there wasn't anything going on.

Most 'experts' agreed it was wheel hop.

[ame]https://twitter.com/ScarbsF1/status/346976401196462080[/ame]


http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/red...trol-514253040


http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/24386679

mike the snake 06-10-2014 12:39 AM
I remember someone mentioning it wasn't technically traction control, but higher KERS loads when needed to effectively act as TC.

cfusionpm 06-10-2014 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1788010)
I remember someone mentioning it wasn't technically traction control, but higher KERS loads when needed to effectively act as TC.
That's what I remember. And I remember it was a HUGE thing after Singapore last year, because on the bumpy and uneven ground, he was able to get on the power 30 meters earlier than literally everybody else. And it made the same rev-limiter juttering sound that old TC systems used to make.

strat61caster 06-10-2014 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1788010)
I remember someone mentioning it wasn't technically traction control, but higher KERS loads when needed to effectively act as TC.
FIA is very broad with their definition of traction control, even if the mechanics were as you describe it would be illegal.

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9.3 Traction control :
No car may be equipped with a system or device which is capable of preventing the driven wheels from spinning under power or of compensating for excessive torque demand by the driver.
Any device or system which notifies the driver of the onset of wheel spin is not permitted.
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/ru.../8710/fia.html

Instead of you all 'recalling' stuff here's the article you want to reference:
http://jalopnik.com/red-bull-may-hav...olo-1442585020

ayau 06-12-2014 12:01 AM
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMqT2FQ-KA"]Vettel And Ricciardo Preview The Red Bull Ring - YouTube[/ame]

cfusionpm 06-12-2014 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 1791939)
Aside from the unbelievably bad acting, that was a pretty good intro video for the track. Looks like it'll be fun with decent overtaking in the corners.

Freude am Fahren 06-12-2014 10:29 PM
Looks pretty much unchanged from when it was the A1 ring. I thought I remembered images of the front straight/T1 completely torn up.

Silver Ignition 06-16-2014 01:37 PM
Schumi out of coma!


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27868787


#keepfightingmichael

Silver Ignition 06-21-2014 10:45 AM
Well, that's an interesting looking starting grid.

cfusionpm 06-21-2014 05:08 PM
What a fantastic quali! Can't wait to see the race tomorrow!

FnFast 06-22-2014 09:46 PM
Really good race from Botas. The HAM needs better pit stops. Losing precious time in the pits where Nico is killing it. Good race overall I think. Not compared to Canada, but still good.

nick_318is 06-22-2014 09:50 PM
Too bad Massa didn't finish on the podium I had high hopes to see him there again. Good race for Williams none the less with Botas getting the 3rd.

kuidaore 06-22-2014 10:13 PM
Not sure if any of you were aware. This weekend was the 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance event. GT86's were present in the SP 3 and V3 classes.

Results here: http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/med...ass__1__01.pdf


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