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BMWDavid 11-20-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen (Post 559836)


Maybe so, but these are pretty nice to drive. The turbo version is a very quick and fast car.

TuxedoCartman 11-20-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by White Shadow (Post 566100)
I actually like them. It's one of those cars that has a funky look to it, but still manages to look good in a weird kinda way. I'd take one of those before I'd take one of these (which is another car with funky styling, but doesn't really do it for me):

http://zumann.com/data_images/posts/...lvo-c30-04.jpg

Oh HELL no!!! You did NOT just bash the Volvo C-30!! Those things are nice! (Granted they're nicer in Europe, where they have more interior options like bamboo wood trim, but still....) My friend has that on her short list of cars she's looking at buying, and I keep nudging her in that direction, just so I'll get a chance to drive it.

How has nobody put these twins up yet? (And these pictures do them too much justice; when I see them on the road, I physically shiver at how god-awful looking they are).
http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...8448296367.png
http://file.kelleybluebookimages.com...80x435_pw1.png

Yeah... Chrysler? Umm, the 80's called, and want their Ford Aerostar back. Seriously, my mom's 95 Windstar was a better looking minivan than this (probably rode better too).

DaJo 11-20-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TuxedoCartman (Post 567201)
Oh HELL no!!! You did NOT just bash the Volvo C-30!! Those things are nice! (Granted they're nicer in Europe, where they have more interior options like bamboo wood trim, but still....) My friend has that on her short list of cars she's looking at buying, and I keep nudging her in that direction, just so I'll get a chance to drive it.

How has nobody put these twins up yet? (And these pictures do them too much justice; when I see them on the road, I physically shiver at how god-awful looking they are).
http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...8448296367.png
http://file.kelleybluebookimages.com...80x435_pw1.png

Yeah... Chrysler? Umm, the 80's called, and want their Ford Aerostar back. Seriously, my mom's 95 Windstar was a better looking minivan than this (probably rode better too).

Oh gawd; don't forget it's VW twin as well...

http://www.all7seatercars.com/wp-con...gen-Routan.jpg

SVTSHC 11-20-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaJoian (Post 559884)
Lol, most of you will get this inside joke...

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...aruBRZ/350.png

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Shagaliscious 11-20-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by M-17 (Post 567086)
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06...age/opener.jpg


No joke, I've never been a fan of this design.

I actually agree.

I understand that it was designed like that to be aerodynamically superior, but that doesn't make it OK for it to be fugly.

Allch Chcar 11-20-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiremonkey0824 (Post 566000)
Hope I'm not the only one that hates these things...

I love that style. To be fair, it looks better in real life and most definitively not in that color. Front end is ugly but that's typical. :sigh:

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Tiremonkey0824 11-20-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 567572)
I love that style. To be fair, it looks better in real life and most definitively not in that color. Front end is ugly but that's typical. :sigh:

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I still think its ugly even at that angle. And I've seen/been inside/mounted tires for quite a few of them and I think it looks goofy. But to each his own I guess.

blue_frs 11-20-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 567364)
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serialk11r 11-20-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 567417)
I actually agree.

I understand that it was designed like that to be aerodynamically superior, but that doesn't make it OK for it to be fugly.

Funny thing is, it's not aerodynamically superior...at least I'm pretty sure it isn't. For aerodynamically superior, look at a McLaren. I think it's just the Bugatti tradition of making extremely fugly but exotic looking cars. The roof scoops are not only very draggy, they're also extremely hideous.

dem00n 11-20-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 567843)
Funny thing is, it's not aerodynamically superior...at least I'm pretty sure it isn't. For aerodynamically superior, look at a McLaren. I think it's just the Bugatti tradition of making extremely fugly but exotic looking cars. The roof scoops are not only very draggy, they're also extremely hideous.

Yes they made some of the most ugly cars of all time.

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt358/dem00n/88.jpg
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/t...plica-01-1.jpg


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Shagaliscious 11-20-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 567843)
Funny thing is, it's not aerodynamically superior...at least I'm pretty sure it isn't. For aerodynamically superior, look at a McLaren. I think it's just the Bugatti tradition of making extremely fugly but exotic looking cars. The roof scoops are not only very draggy, they're also extremely hideous.

Yea, I just checked the drag coefficient, not very impressive at 0.41. Even when put into top speed mode, it only drops to 0.36. I always figured because it was so stable at high speeds, it was very aerodynamic.

serialk11r 11-20-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 567874)
Yea, I just checked the drag coefficient, not very impressive at 0.41. Even when put into top speed mode, it only drops to 0.36. I always figured because it was so stable at high speeds, it was very aerodynamic.

Well drag coefficient isn't everything, but when competitors are using the same ultra long wheelbase (makes tapering the rear end harder), and getting sufficient downforce and stability with a lot less drag, I think that says something. The Supersport I think has more intelligent ducting, but intake off the roof is not the best idea in the first place. I guess they have a lot more cooling needs because of the massive engine though, and that uses up all the other ducts.

Dimman 11-21-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 567843)
Funny thing is, it's not aerodynamically superior...at least I'm pretty sure it isn't. For aerodynamically superior, look at a McLaren. I think it's just the Bugatti tradition of making extremely fugly but exotic looking cars. The roof scoops are not only very draggy, they're also extremely hideous.

Yes on the Macca. Took VW like 400 hp, and turning its wing off to barely beat the no-wing-needed F1.

Buuut... I think the old (real French) Bugatti sports racers were quite nice. Small and elegant. The Atlantic is pretty gross, but not a sports model.

I think it was Ettore (sp?) who criticized Bentley for building the world's fastest trucks because they were so big and heavy. He would be disgusted by the current cars, I think.

It is my personal opinion that the new Bugatti is a deliberate insult to the French.

ette 11-21-2012 01:22 AM

Saw this gem parked out behind work earlier.


http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/...GN/photo1a.jpg


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