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FutureFT86 11-11-2011 03:52 PM
FT86 vs. RX-7 FD
 
Hey guys,

Besides the S2000 which I think is an absolutely great car, I think the next best thing besides the FT86 is an FD rx7. most of the specs I found online show this car is not too much larger than the ft86 and it not much heavier either (around 2850lbs). The height of the rx7 is also lower and thus I suspect the COG may be lower. I just think this is one car (although almost 20yrs old) can rival the ft86. Now I may be comparing apples to oranges here but I would just like to see what you guys think.

Thanks,
Mike

fatoni 11-11-2011 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureFT86 (Post 74537)
Hey guys,

Besides the S2000 which I think is an absolutely great car, I think the next best thing besides the FT86 is an FD rx7. most of the specs I found online show this car is not too much larger than the ft86 and it not much heavier either (around 2850lbs). The height of the rx7 is also lower and thus I suspect the COG may be lower. I just think this is one car (although almost 20yrs old) can rival the ft86. Now I may be comparing apples to oranges here but I would just like to see what you guys think.

Thanks,
Mike
i dont think you would find too many people saying the fd is the next best thing behind an s2k. i also dont think these parameters are quite what we should be measuring the cars by. i think its safe to say the rx7 is gonna be the better car

Crashoverride 11-11-2011 04:07 PM
Hum IDK the RX7 is an older tech, and just because the roof line is lower doesn't mean the car is lower or the COG is lower.

Dragonitti 11-11-2011 04:52 PM
I posted this in the other thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 74463)
I thought I would look up the specs for the 93 RX7 just to get a visual of the proportions for the FRS, since I've ridden in the RX7. I was a little worried the FRS would be to cramp like an S2k and Miata, but it seems like it will be just fine.

In Inches

RX7
Length 168.5
Width 68.9
Height 48.4
Wheel Base 95.5
Weight 2826lbs
Power HP/TQ 255/217



FRS
Length 166
Width 69.8
Height 50.5
Wheel Base 101.1
Weight 2667lbs
Power HP/TQ 200/170

prighello 11-11-2011 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Crashoverride (Post 74544)
Hum IDK the RX7 is an older tech, and just because the roof line is lower doesn't mean the car is lower or the COG is lower.
No but having a rotary engine gives it low COG. My bet, the FD would beat the FR-S on any given track even though it's older tech. It was designed to go after the 911 of the time. Maybe when the FR-S comes out someone can do a comparision.

Dark 11-11-2011 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by prighello (Post 74562)
No but having a rotary engine gives it low COG. My bet, the FD would beat the FR-S on any given track even though it's older tech. It was designed to go after the 911 of the time. Maybe when the FR-S comes out someone can do a comparision.
True that rotary engine is really low CoG, but I don't really know how low. RX-7 is completely different cars though. Like you said, it was designed to go against 911. FRS is not designed to go against any of those light-heavyweight cars.

70NYD 11-11-2011 10:20 PM
Rx7 was the best handling car in its class from factory when it was released.
This looks awesome btw

WingsofWar 11-12-2011 12:58 AM
the FRS has some tough challenges ahead of itself to chase after the FD in its best habitat. It is considered a top competitor in japan, and not many cars built today can do what the FD does stock on the skidpad.

FRS is new challenger in a list of Japanese cars that are really focused on a certain area of sportiness, like; Silvia, Rx-7, MX-5, MR-S, CIVIC R, INTEGRA R, AE86, ect..

Snoopyalien24 11-12-2011 02:05 AM
For dd I'd prefer an FR-S. I know rotary isn't that good on MPG, as what my friend tells me with is RX-8. And I'm sure it cost less to maintain a H4 than a rotary too. That's my take in the dd section. Not much, but a couple of my .02

Matador 11-12-2011 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 74695)
Rx7 was the best handling car in its class from factory when it was released.
This looks awesome btw
Yeah, pretty much the only thing in that class that could objectively out-handle the MkIV Supra (even though not by much.. and not in every test).

70NYD 11-12-2011 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 74733)
For dd I'd prefer an FR-S. I know rotary isn't that good on MPG, as what my friend tells me with is RX-8. And I'm sure it cost less to maintain a H4 than a rotary too. That's my take in the dd section. Not much, but a couple of my .02

You don't get a rotary if you want economy.
If you are doing maintenance your self, rotary is very easy to maintain. It doesn't cost any more than any other car I have drive or owned. Perhaps you/r friend don't know much about cars or how to maintain them?

70NYD 11-12-2011 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 74768)
Yeah, pretty much the only thing in that class that could objectively out-handle the MkIV Supra (even though not by much.. and not in every test).
Mmmm fd+mkiv should have babies. My fav cars :D

4agze 11-12-2011 08:27 PM
FD no not a chance maybe a FC yes

Prof1ig8tor 11-13-2011 09:34 AM
Anyone else drawing a close comparison between the FS1 (BRZ, FT-86) and the currently dying on the dealer lot RX-8?

The RX-8 is slightly heavier, but has been lauded repeatedly as one of the best handling cars out there. It has slightly more power and (for enthusiast driving) a useful rev band.

The more I think about running to buy a new BRZ, the more I think, why not a -8?


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