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Pbrown 04-25-2014 09:34 PM

Motul
 
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Originally Posted by Venator (Post 1698436)
Recommendations?


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Everyone seems to rave about the motul product line. Expensive though. amsoil also comes up often.

hoss1990 05-03-2014 02:54 AM

I got mine replaced about 2000 miles ago and the chirp is back

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Sccabrz192 05-23-2014 09:22 AM

Can anyone confirm getting their ECM reflashed via this TSB? I have a 2012 build and figured I'd have this looked at while having my tail light fixed. The dealership (HIGHLY REPUTABLE) provided feedback that Subaru service engineering does not have a new ECM cal available for my car at this time.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1395947828


Is this a false TSB?

qqzj 05-23-2014 03:47 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Went to get the AC idle issue reprogrammed. Found out that they have an updated version. I compared the two, not much difference but glad to add a bit more.

But I need your help on another issue. I also want them to take care of the window squeal when wet issue. But got shot down b/c I have tint on. I put on tint AFTER I heard the squeals. What can I do here? Dealer asked me to remove the tint, that was really easy solution.

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Originally Posted by Sccabrz192 (Post 1755024)
Can anyone confirm getting their ECM reflashed via this TSB? I have a 2012 build and figured I'd have this looked at while having my tail light fixed. The dealership (HIGHLY REPUTABLE) provided feedback that Subaru service engineering does not have a new ECM cal available for my car at this time.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1395947828


Is this a false TSB?


AVodka14 05-23-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by qqzj (Post 1755794)
Went to get the AC idle issue reprogrammed. Found out that they have an updated version. I compared the two, not much difference but glad to add a bit more.

But I need your help on another issue. I also want them to take care of the window squeal when wet issue. But got shot down b/c I have tint on. I put on tint AFTER I heard the squeals. What can I do here? Dealer asked me to remove the tint, that was really easy solution.

What is the AC idle issue you are speaking of? I may have something going on in that area.

qqzj 05-23-2014 04:30 PM

Check the TSB list. Mine is an updated version.

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Originally Posted by AVodka14 (Post 1755894)
What is the AC idle issue you are speaking of? I may have something going on in that area.


Droegs2 05-24-2014 12:34 PM

I have had my brz in over 6 times for issues that lead me to believe its a control arm problem. Subaru has given me free alignments/tire rotations. They have replaced the bushings and the car still always pulls right w/ vibration in steering wheel and gas pedal. (Never jumped curbs)...... Anyone else having this issue or have an idea how to fix it.....


I can't drive over 80 mph without my car wanting to jump lanes of traffic (always right and gets worse the faster you go)

If I drive for over 30 min the tpms always comes on and the vibrations begins to get worse. Almost like something is heating up and expanding to the point of it hitting other metal.

73TORANA! 05-25-2014 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Droegs2 (Post 1757258)
I have had my brz in over 6 times for issues that lead me to believe its a control arm problem. Subaru has given me free alignments/tire rotations. They have replaced the bushings and the car still always pulls right w/ vibration in steering wheel and gas pedal. (Never jumped curbs)...... Anyone else having this issue or have an idea how to fix it.....


I can't drive over 80 mph without my car wanting to jump lanes of traffic (always right and gets worse the faster you go)

If I drive for over 30 min the tpms always comes on and the vibrations begins to get worse. Almost like something is heating up and expanding to the point of it hitting other metal.


Wow that’s really concerning. If its speed related it must be a rotating part like a wheel.
Alignment?? Gee it would have to be out a fair way and I recon you would see it with your eye and you would see the tires scrubbing badly.

Does it get better or worse when braking?.

Has the Dealer driven the car ?

Get some one to drive beside you on a dual lane road to see if a wheel is shaking, bouncing etc. Check both sides
If a wheel is bouncing that would explain why it gets worse after 30mins as the shocker will be heating up an loosing efficiency as the oil gets thin.
Get onto the dealer and demand results as don’t take no for an answer, I would not drive it any further as it will begin to ware things out and it sounds dangerous.

civicdrivr 05-25-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Droegs2 (Post 1757258)
I have had my brz in over 6 times for issues that lead me to believe its a control arm problem. Subaru has given me free alignments/tire rotations. They have replaced the bushings and the car still always pulls right w/ vibration in steering wheel and gas pedal. (Never jumped curbs)...... Anyone else having this issue or have an idea how to fix it.....


I can't drive over 80 mph without my car wanting to jump lanes of traffic (always right and gets worse the faster you go)

If I drive for over 30 min the tpms always comes on and the vibrations begins to get worse. Almost like something is heating up and expanding to the point of it hitting other metal.

I want to say that it sounds like a bent or even cracked wheel or a bad tire, but if they've rotated the wheels front-back, then the vibration you're feeling would change. I'm not entirely sure if Techstream would show which wheel is showing the TPMS fault, but that would narrow down where you should be looking.

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Droegs2 05-25-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 73TORANA! (Post 1758367)
Wow that’s really concerning. If its speed related it must be a rotating part like a wheel.
Alignment?? Gee it would have to be out a fair way and I recon you would see it with your eye and you would see the tires scrubbing badly.

Does it get better or worse when braking?.

Has the Dealer driven the car ?

Get some one to drive beside you on a dual lane road to see if a wheel is shaking, bouncing etc. Check both sides
If a wheel is bouncing that would explain why it gets worse after 30mins as the shocker will be heating up an loosing efficiency as the oil gets thin.
Get onto the dealer and demand results as don’t take no for an answer, I would not drive it any further as it will begin to ware things out and it sounds dangerous.

The car is in the shop now and I don't plan to take it back until the shop Foreman takes a spin with me.... I was already told it could be a bent rim and so I bought two new ones (didn't help)..... The tire wear pattern isn't showing anything out of the norm, which seems to be weird to me.

Dezoris 06-05-2014 03:30 AM

Can someone pull this tsb SUBARU TSB: SB-06-44-12

Evil Jesus 06-11-2014 08:49 PM

So has anyone here gotten the shifter rattle addressed? How did it go? Did the dealership fuck anything up?

Kimsey47 06-18-2014 11:34 AM

Took my BRZ in today so that my horrible dealer can deny they'll do anything for condensation on my drivers side tail. I bought my car in 2012 and it just now started showing this issue. Fingers crossed that I don't have to fight over this...

UPDATE: Wow, they actually replaced it with no questions asked! Hell must have just froze over!

Evil Jesus 06-18-2014 03:45 PM

I'm waiting on my parts for a 2nd tail light replacement. Let's hope it works this time.

mfbmike 06-18-2014 04:11 PM

The service advisor at my toyota dealership said the oil leak from the timing cover on my car was actually part of a TSB.

Didn't see it here, figured I'd mention.

deliroast 09-01-2014 01:07 PM

Is there a tsb or anything for the 3rd to 4th gear grind?


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73TORANA! 09-02-2014 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimsey47 (Post 1802560)
Took my BRZ in today so that my horrible dealer can deny they'll do anything for condensation on my drivers side tail. I bought my car in 2012 and it just now started showing this issue. Fingers crossed that I don't have to fight over this...

UPDATE: Wow, they actually replaced it with no questions asked! Hell must have just froze over!

Thats great news. My dealer and Toyota AUS have called my slightly sticky brake pedal upon release along with a metallic clunk a characteristic and are refusing to rectify it and giving me the runaround. Incidentally people on the the Subaru Liberty Outback forum are complaining of exactly the same thing on the 2013 models...I'm still fighting.. My steering clunk issue over rough roads between 15 and 25Kph has also been call a characteristic along with a refusal to fix. Indecently JTEKT the manufactures of the elect power steer unit for the 86 and many others list this phenomena in their engineering journal and have tried for ever to make it quieter. They say its backlash between the ring gear and the worm drive. So I recon there not chance of a fix unless hell freezes twice and there's a recall...

deliroast 09-05-2014 11:28 AM

TSB / Recall
 
Well... Go in to talk to service manager at Subaru about shit synchros going from 3-4 gear with only 14k miles. Apparently they've never had a single transmission issue


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73TORANA! 09-08-2014 04:24 AM

Hey Deliroast, don't let them tell you its a characteristic..... I did read somewhere on the Aussie forum that some people adjusted the clutch push rod to give it a bit more throw. They said it helped. Good luck !!!

deliroast 09-08-2014 05:45 AM

After lots of arguing Friday I got the tech to ride with me. New trans was ordered after the tech line got put in. The manager was still trying to say that any transmission would grind shifting at higher rpm and fast


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Eurasianman 09-08-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by deliroast (Post 1932996)
Well... Go in to talk to service manager at Subaru about shit synchros going from 3-4 gear with only 14k miles. Apparently they've never had a single transmission issue


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I have a feeling, that by default, every service manager will always tell the customer that they have never had a single "insert issue with your vehicle here" in order to avoid having to do warranty work...

deliroast 09-08-2014 05:32 PM

Oh trust me, I completely agree. And after that it's the "normal driving" since it's over 4k that's the issue.


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deliroast 09-12-2014 02:56 PM

New transmission feels great! No issues in any gear.


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stugray 09-12-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurasianman (Post 1937493)
I have a feeling, that by default, every service manager will always tell the customer that they have never had a single "insert issue with your vehicle here" in order to avoid having to do warranty work...

I was once told by a service manager at Nissan:
"We have never had a problem with the brake rotors warping on the 300ZX, but we installed the factory fix for you..."

WAIT WHAT!?! So you are saying there is a "factory fix" for a problem that Nissan has never seen before? - RIIIIGHT...wink wink nudge nudge.

:bonk:

incidentally after replacing the rotors 4 times under warranty with less than 30,000 miles on the car, the car was returned under the lemon law.
This was back in ~86 IIRC

deliroast 09-12-2014 03:13 PM

Unfortunately here in ga I'll never even be able to claim lemon if this trans acts up since it has to be documented or started work before 12k or some other crazy low mileage


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civicdrivr 09-12-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by deliroast (Post 1944193)
Unfortunately here in ga I'll never even be able to claim lemon if this trans acts up since it has to be documented or started work before 12k or some other crazy low mileage


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In Georgia, the issue needs to be reported within 24k miles or two years, whichever occurs first.

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The Georgia Lemon Law:
The vehicle must be purchased, leased, or registered in Georgia.
Covers new motor vehicles or demonstration vehicles, if titled as new.
Covers new trucks up to 12,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating and the self-propelled and chassis
portion of new motor homes.
Covers nonconformities first reported within the lemon law rights period, which is the first two years
or 24,000 miles of operation of the vehicle, whichever occurs first.

A vehicle may qualify under the lemon law after the manufacturer or its authorized dealer has been
given a reasonable number of attempts to repair the same nonconformity within the lemon law rights
period, but has not been able to repair the nonconformity.
Under the lemon law, a reasonable number of attempts is deemed to be: (a.) one attempt, if the
nonconformity is a serious safety defect; (b.) three attempts, if the nonconformity, although not a
serious safety defect, substantially impairs the use, value, or safety of the vehicle; or, (c.) a
cumulative total of 30 days during which the vehicle is out of service for repair of one or more
nonconformities.
After a reasonable number of attempts to repair a serious safety defect or any other nonconformity
(either a. or b. above), the consumer must notify the manufacturer and provide the manufacturer
with a final opportunity to repair the nonconformity.
If the manufacturer fails to correct the nonconformity after the final repair attempt, or if the vehicle is
out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities for a cumulative total of 30 days,
the consumer may be eligible for a refund for the purchase price of the vehicle or a replacement
vehicle.
It is very important to keep copies of all work orders, reports (such as vehicle inspection, diagnosis,
or test drive reports) and written correspondence with the manufacturer. Remember, you are entitled
to receive a fully itemized and legible statement or repair order each time you take your vehicle in for
diagnosis or repair.
To assert your rights under the law, other requirements may apply. For further information, contact
the Governor’s Office of Consumer Protection.
http://www.consumer.ga.gov/pdf/Lemon_Law_Rules_9-11.pdf

deliroast 09-12-2014 04:32 PM

TSB / Recall
 
Shit yea! Wonder how it works with military though lol. And must've been remembering the lb requirement


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ATL BRZ 10-17-2014 12:56 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is the TSB for Subaru TSB: 02-136-12R - Oil Seepage Diagnosis and Repair Procedures.

73TORANA! 10-19-2014 06:01 AM

Thanks for these bulletins well done it is appreciated.

Sigh-on-Rice 10-20-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1987714)
Here is the TSB for Subaru TSB: 02-136-12R - Oil Seepage Diagnosis and Repair Procedures.

Thank you. Added to the list.

Pkush 11-06-2014 06:08 PM

12-140-12 : Popping Sound from Trunk / Rear Shelf Area

So can I just bring it in and make them fix it since mine is still under warranty?

Mine is 2015 but i have that sound :(

Sigh-on-Rice 11-06-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pkush (Post 2013127)
12-140-12 : Popping Sound from Trunk / Rear Shelf Area

So can I just bring it in and make them fix it since mine is still under warranty?

Mine is 2015 but i have that sound :(

I don't know if they will. TSB says that a countermeasure was incorporated into production in July 2012 starting with VIN number D*602788.

Are you sure you have the same noise? You can find the video in this thread.

Pkush 11-06-2014 07:06 PM

The sound in the video isn't great but I'm pretty sure I got the same thing just less frequent

Sigh-on-Rice 11-06-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pkush (Post 2013208)
The sound in the video isn't great but I'm pretty sure I got the same thing just less frequent

I see. I would try below before bringing it in to the dealer. This fixed mine and it takes only a minute to do. I used WD40. The noise has been gone for over 2 years now. The spot to spray is not inside the pocket. If you push the spot marked with red circle in the picture firmly enough, then the 2 metals open up a little bit at where the red straw is pointing at. You spray between those 2 metals.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=3096
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=3097

Pkush 11-06-2014 07:23 PM

Will try it tomorrow! Thanks!

abraxis 11-06-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2013217)
I see. I would try below before bringing it in to the dealer. This fixed mine and it takes only a minute to do. I used WD40. The noise has been gone for over 2 years now. The spot to spray is not inside the pocket. If you push the spot marked with red circle in the picture firmly enough, then the 2 metals open up a little bit at where the red straw is pointing at. You spray between those 2 metals.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=3096
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=3097

I'm curious if one of those trunck braces that lines up right under across that beam would help?

FISHBURGLAR 11-13-2014 12:49 PM

i bought my frs used as i am the second owner. it is a 2013. car has 12,800 miles... can i take it to any toyota dealer and have them fix the TSB on my car? or would i have to pay out of pocket?

Sigh-on-Rice 11-13-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FISHBURGLAR (Post 2020893)
i bought my frs used as i am the second owner. it is a 2013. car has 12,800 miles... can i take it to any toyota dealer and have them fix the TSB on my car? or would i have to pay out of pocket?

It depends on where the original owner bought the car from.
If the car was originally bought in Canada or Hawaii or anywhere outside of U.S., then I think Toyota of mainland U.S. won't honor the warranty. I'm not sure about Alaska.

Kevinn 11-26-2014 03:45 PM

My subaru dealer says there is a new revised TSB for the chirping effective April 2014. Are you able to post that one?

Koa 11-26-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevinn (Post 2035892)
My subaru dealer says there is a new revised TSB for the chirping effective April 2014. Are you able to post that one?

bro.. the chirping is here to stay


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