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Yruyur 10-29-2012 11:19 AM

Loud popping in the intake
 
So another FRS owner we met this weekend had a scary issue this weekend. He is not on the forum and was going to bring his car in for service this week but I though I would ask you guys first.

Under acceleration he was getting a few very loud pops under his hood. It sounded like a backfire in the intake. He is stock and the issues did not happen until he went into Toyota for what he thought he needed at 5k. Turns out they told him to come back at 7k.

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Yruyur 10-29-2012 11:26 AM

He is all stock by the way.

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Z0rr0 10-29-2012 11:49 AM

mine does the same thing when it's cold. only once or twice though. sounds like a backfire into the intake.
i can't reproduce it, so i have not taken it in.

BRZ_Driver 10-29-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0 (Post 526226)
mine does the same thing when it's cold. only once or twice though. sounds like a backfire into the intake.
i can't reproduce it, so i have not taken it in.


Scary part is, he can do it just by revving the engine even after warm up.

xjohnx 10-29-2012 12:45 PM

I'd take it back to the dealer. He's stock and under warranty.

empower-auto 10-29-2012 12:54 PM

I get a little popping action but it's definitely in my exhaust. Motiv 2.5" test-pipe into T1R 70R 70mm cat-back

*KID* 10-29-2012 02:30 PM

I also get a loud popping noise... atleast once a week. and it happens when I apply a lil too much gas off the pedal

Guff 10-29-2012 02:45 PM

Backfire in the intake? Perhaps intake valves are stuck or improperly timed? Sounds weird though.

I would definitely just take to dealer though. They should sort it out if its and audible pop.

zoomzoomers 10-29-2012 02:52 PM

That definitely sounds like something is wrong there. You shouldn't be getting any popping noise from an intake. Only thing you should hear is the swoosh of the induction system. Can't say with such little info, but it doesn't sound like a good thing IMO.

I say install the stock system back and take her into the dealership.

cf6mech 10-29-2012 08:19 PM

Get it too now for the first time,....approaching 3k miles,....only on cold start up tho,...the weather here has changed (gotten colder) and I contributed it to that,...it is coming from intake as well.....only happens once in awhile,...not worrying about it unless it gets worse.

Asphaltfrs1 10-29-2012 08:43 PM

To day when I was driving, I was in 3rd gear and let off the gas since there was a red light approaching. When the light turned green just a couple seconds later I gave it gas, and a pop sound came from the exhaust. I've heard this sound before, but I can't never replicate it.

zoomzoomers 10-29-2012 11:32 PM

Out of curiosity what intakes are you guys with the popping noise running?

cf6mech 10-29-2012 11:41 PM

All stock for me.And its most definately under the hood.

Yruyur 10-30-2012 12:14 AM

The guy I posted this about was all stock also.

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FRSFirestorm 01-22-2013 09:32 AM

Coldest its been since owning the car this morning. About 10*F. Car started fine, immediately into cold idle and after a few seconds of running it backfired through the intake several times, or at least thats what it sounded like. Never touching the throttle. Ran fine after that and on the trip to work.

HRTROB 04-13-2013 04:55 PM

I've experienced this also. High load, low rpm pop. It can sometimes be replicated by coasting then stabbing the throttle when in 2nd or 3rd at 2,000rpm and below.

CTB727 04-13-2013 07:44 PM

I've had the same problem happen to me only once at ~3,000 miles, during cold start. I'm now close to 5,000. Completely stock too.

romin 04-14-2013 12:36 AM

I went to the dealership for an oil change and a routine inspection. While I was there they pointed out that I had this firecracker noise coming from my intake when the throttle was lifted off of idle. I had never heard this sound before but I had cleared a P0315 CEL a couple times.
To me it seemed that the CEL and the misfires were related so I upgraded all four coils and haven't had a problem since.

g0lden 04-14-2013 02:50 PM

Only time any of my 20 odd cars backfired through the intake was caused by improper timing.... seems quite odd on a new car.

Coheed 04-15-2013 11:13 PM

Injector malfunction? These Direct Injectors having seal issues?

FirestormFRS 04-15-2013 11:22 PM

I don't think it's a seal issue. Seems it's a no close issue. Probably not the direct injectors though, most likely (from experiance) it's the port injectors not fully closing.

mad_sb 04-16-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 863161)
My injector had a leak from what the dealer found with the PO351 CEL.. the #1 cyl wasn't functioning correctly. That's going to most likely be the issue if you hear the new "intake backfire" issue people are having.

yup, most of the intake backfires i have seen were a result of a leaking port injector. My M3 used to do it on warm starts.... if it sat turned off long enough the fuel system would loose pressure and the leak would stop and the gas that was sitting behind the closed valve would evaporate so it would only do it on warm starts.

Exhaust popping is due to over run fuel lighting off in the exhaust and is nothing to be concerned about. If you want to hear it more, get a high flow 2ndary cat and an axle back or catback exhaust.

LavosTRD 04-16-2013 08:50 PM

The Teflon Seals on the Direct Injectors are leaking. Take it to the Dealership and have the tech call Technical Assistance / FTS. Toyota IS aware of the issue.

peachch 04-21-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LavosTRD (Post 870555)
The Teflon Seals on the Direct Injectors are leaking. Take it to the Dealership and have the tech call Technical Assistance / FTS. Toyota IS aware of the issue.


Which parts should I replace?

LavosTRD 04-22-2013 10:23 AM

Take it to your dealer.

romin 05-03-2013 11:16 AM

A friend's engine was recently inspected and the dealer found an injector o ring leaking fuel. He said heat could have caused it to melt or it may have been defective.

peachch 05-03-2013 01:08 PM

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Mine also has the same issue. O-ring of 1st cylinder is completly gone. The picture is 1st and 3rd direct injectors. I just replaced all o-rings and insulators. I did not have chance to drive yet, but popping when cold start has gone.

whtchocla7e 05-03-2013 01:37 PM

Guys,
Are your popping sounds similar to mine?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky_vDK4ePHI"]FR-S cold start - YouTube[/ame]

peachch 05-03-2013 09:51 PM

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peachch 05-03-2013 09:57 PM

This is where popping sound came from
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ramiram1984 05-03-2013 10:15 PM

A pop, sounds like a back fire. Might be the cat. It can also be engine internals (more like clunking noise upon start-up)

Get it to the dealer. No need in asking us here. It's a mechanical issue at this point.

Laika 05-05-2013 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z0rr0 (Post 526226)
mine does the same thing when it's cold. only once or twice though. sounds like a backfire into the intake.
i can't reproduce it, so i have not taken it in.

Does this usually happen within a minute of turning the car on?


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Originally Posted by whtchocla7e (Post 909014)
Guys,
Are your popping sounds similar to mine?

Yes! This! I get the popping noise exactly two times though and the car needs to have sat for at least 6 hours.

I thought it was related to my tune but maybe you guys can tell me otherwise? Going back to stock tomorrow for inspection. Time to investigate and stop ignoring it after several months.

Edit: just bothered to read the whole thread. I'm gonna have my tech pull that injector.

OrbitalEllipses 05-06-2013 12:04 AM

That video, what o ring is leaking? An injector?

Laika 05-06-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 913350)
That video, what o ring is leaking? An injector?

Teflon seal on the direct injector for cyl #1. Apparently toyota/scion has acknowledged this. Maybe Subaru can figure it out too

OrbitalEllipses 05-06-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 913364)
Teflon seal on the direct injector for cyl #1. Apparently toyota/scion has acknowledged this. Maybe Subaru can figure it out too

Sounds safe! :eyebulge:

I've only had a pop or two on cold-start in the winter a few times, but it sounded like exhaust afterfire.

Laika 05-06-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 913379)
Sounds safe! :eyebulge:

I've only had a pop or two on cold-start in the winter a few times, but it sounded like exhaust afterfire.

A little bit of fuel leaking, what's the worst that could happen;)

Strange that you rarely had it when I experience it every morning and until recent temps, the afternoon after work too. The warm weather seems to be preventing it but who knows.

It's pretty vivid that the sound comes from the intake area so your sound may just be irrelevant to this

OrbitalEllipses 05-06-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 913397)
A little bit of fuel leaking, what's the worst that could happen;)

Strange that you rarely had it when I experience it every morning and until recent temps, the afternoon after work too. The warm weather seems to be preventing it but who knows.

It's pretty vivid that the sound comes from the intake area so your sound may just be irrelevant to this

I'll have to have a buddy start the car while I look under the hood. I had enough leaky fuel bullshit with my Impreza, thanks. :thumbdown:

Laika 05-06-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedygonzales (Post 913426)
looking at the motor facing the engine bay which one is cyl #1?

Not sure. On the EJ motors it was the front one on the passenger side. I wonder if that means its the rear of the drivers side bank for our cars :popcorn:

whtchocla7e 05-06-2013 09:22 AM

Hey man, keep us posted. I, too, would love to have this shit fixed already.

My symptoms are exactly like yours. During the winter, my car used to pop after work or first thing in the morning. Even if there was no popping sound, I could still feel the "micro-explosions" through the chassis.

romin 05-06-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LavosTRD (Post 870555)
The Teflon Seals on the Direct Injectors are leaking. Take it to the Dealership and have the tech call Technical Assistance / FTS. Toyota IS aware of the issue.

Does Toyota have any written info on this issue?
Subaru is playing dumb...


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