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Opie 10-26-2012 09:44 PM

A better BRZ foglight option!
 
Anyone that has a BRZ knows that the OEM foglights are a little disappointing. Not only do they look dull yellow compared to the HID headlights, but they also are not very bright and due to the odd bulb size (PSX24W) there aren't any easy upgrades available.

But there is a solution! Upgrade to foglights off of a 2011 Subaru Outback!
Why you ask? The 2011 Outback uses a more common H11 bulb and has the same mounting points and dimensions as the BRZ foglight, all wrapped in a stronger housing with a glass lens (instead of plastic BRZ lens).

Here is a comparison of the two foglights:
OEM BRZ Foglight - P/N: 84912FJ100
Weight: 0.24 lbs (Foglight including bulb)
Cost (MSRP): $149.95 each (does not include the bulb)
Bulb: PSX24W
Lens: Plastic
Housing: Plastic

2011 Outback Foglight - P/N: 84501AJ00A
Weight: 0.54 lbs (Foglight including bulb)
Cost (MSRP): $60.18 each (includes bulb)
Bulb: H11
Lens: Glass
Housing: Composite

What do you need to install?
2-Qty Foglights (P/N: 84501AJ00A)
2-Qty H11 Harness pigtails
4-Qty Wire Crimps
Tools: Phillips Screwdriver, wire cutters/stripper, electrical tape

Steps:
1 - Access back of foglight through wheel well, behind splash guard..
2 - Unplug fog light, remove 2 mounting screws, remove foglight.
3 - Install new fog light, secure with same two screws.
4 - Cut OEM foglight connector off. Using wire crimps, connect H11 harness. Wrap with electrical tape when finished.
5 - Plug harness into foglight.
6 - Reinstall splash guard.
7 - Done, have a drink.

Here's some pics:
http://www.challengepromotions.com/W...Fogs/Backs.JPG

http://www.challengepromotions.com/W...Fogs/Sides.JPG

http://www.challengepromotions.com/W...Z/Fogs/BRZ.JPG

http://www.challengepromotions.com/W...alledFront.JPG

http://www.challengepromotions.com/W...talledRear.JPG

Enjoy!
:happy0180:

Fascist Fish 10-27-2012 12:58 AM

Thanks!
where did you get your H11 Harness pigtails?

OmarGC 10-27-2012 01:07 AM

Awesome find!

Le86 10-27-2012 02:16 AM

Looks like it was spliced? I could be wrong.

merlin2111 10-27-2012 02:28 AM

Any pics of them on?

OmarGC 10-27-2012 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le86 (Post 523107)
Looks like it was spliced? I could be wrong.

If you read you'll see you are required to splice h11 pigtails in.

OrbitalEllipses 10-27-2012 03:37 AM

How's the color temperature on these lights? I'd prefer something that doesn't require cutting off the stock connectors.

KI_ZN6 10-27-2012 04:01 AM

Good find! Thanks for sharing =)

Opie 10-27-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fascist Fish (Post 523027)
Thanks!
where did you get your H11 Harness pigtails?

Ordered them from Amazon...

Opie 10-27-2012 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 523179)
How's the color temperature on these lights? I'd prefer something that doesn't require cutting off the stock connectors.

That's the beauty of these lights, the H11 bulbs come in several temperatures all the way up to 4200k that match toe OEM fogs almost perfectly. And the housings are sturdy enough to hold up to the heat of an HID conversion better than the flimsy OEM's.

Opie 10-27-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin2111 (Post 523116)
Any pics of them on?

Not yet...this was a test fit of the light itself (if you notice one of the mounting arms is broken on the test light). Now that I know they fit all the necessary parts are on order for the complete install.

2forme 10-27-2012 09:59 AM

I think I might have to do this conversion myself. The yellow OEM fog bothers me. LOL

Would love to get an H11 bulb that matches the OEM HIDs

JoeBoxer 10-27-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 523317)
I think I might have to do this conversion myself. The yellow OEM fog bothers me. LOL

Would love to get an H11 bulb that matches the OEM HIDs

There are a lot of cars going to that fog light bulb and they are pretty terrible, i put some led's in my challenger that used it and they looked cool but didn't light up much.

If I was going to do this conversion i would use the PIAA Plasma Yellow H11 bulbs but thats just me.

VSGTS14 10-27-2012 12:16 PM

you would think subaru would just say heyyy let's take the outback housing and use it to save money!

excellent info.

TheSt|G 10-27-2012 12:27 PM

Very nice work!

OrbitalEllipses 10-27-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opie (Post 523275)
That's the beauty of these lights, the H11 bulbs come in several temperatures all the way up to 4200k that match toe OEM fogs almost perfectly. And the housings are sturdy enough to hold up to the heat of an HID conversion better than the flimsy OEM's.

Thanks Opie.

xcelir8brz 10-28-2012 12:10 PM

Subscribed.

Norkoastal 10-28-2012 12:39 PM

Subiescribed... I have some spare JPN housings that I want to toss these fogs into. Only problem now is the fact Ive grown into liking the daytime leds and hids might blind more than help in actual foggy areas.

xcelir8brz 10-28-2012 12:49 PM

Found this:

2010-2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i Only Fog Lamp Kit Halogen H451SAJ100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-2011-Su...-/200660269820

OrbitalEllipses 10-28-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcelir8brz (Post 524720)
Found this:

2010-2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i Only Fog Lamp Kit Halogen H451SAJ100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-2011-Su...-/200660269820

That's definitely more parts than we need for this conversion.

OrbitalEllipses 10-28-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 523179)
I'd prefer something that doesn't require cutting off the stock connectors.

And all that requires is splicing a PSX24W (PG20) male pigtail to a H11 (PGJ19-2) female pigtail.

Right?

xcelir8brz 10-28-2012 06:35 PM

Now what I am curious about is light output and usability of these new fogs as real fogs versus lenses that just light up for show (I know there is more to it, but for fogs the stock OEM blows!).

OrbitalEllipses 10-28-2012 06:46 PM

My opinion is that the fogs are simply too low to be useful. Their output is probably too low compared to the HIDs, but I'm not sure if H11 4000-4200K bulbs will help or just blow out the bottom/side portion of your lights in inclement weather.

White64Goat 10-28-2012 09:28 PM

That kit also looks like either the lenses are smoked or they are black chrome and cost way too much.

White64Goat 10-28-2012 09:34 PM

Can you verify part number of the Outback fog. Page 1 has 2 different numbers 84501A00A and 849501AJ00A. Thanks

nquillen 10-30-2012 02:23 PM

84501AJ00A

xcelir8brz 10-30-2012 03:44 PM

$80 http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_...p?partid=19073

Opie 10-31-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 525115)
And all that requires is splicing a PSX24W (PG20) male pigtail to a H11 (PGJ19-2) female pigtail.

Right?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 525333)
Can you verify part number of the Outback fog. Page 1 has 2 different numbers 84501A00A and 849501AJ00A. Thanks


Fixed:
84501AJ00A - Foglight with bulb - $57.00 MSRP Each 84913AJ00A - Foglight without bulb - $61.00 MSRP Each

xcelir8brz 10-31-2012 01:40 PM

Yeah! I can finally get my enduro yellow bulbs back in. I am so doing this!

xcelir8brz 10-31-2012 02:13 PM

Just did this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUBARU-84501...94d03d&vxp=mtr

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Pico-5340pt-H11-Bulb-Connector/dp/B001TQYO88/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1351688687&sr=8-4&keywords=h11+pigtail"]Pico 5340pt #H8 #H11 Hal Bulb Connector : Amazon.com : Automotive[/ame]

http://www.hoen-usa.com/fog.htm

$188.45 dollars later shipped, all I need to do is swap them out and use a little bit of solder and electrical tape on hand. Definitely not more than an hour project.

I am so pleased with the original post.

I was pissed when I found out I couldn't buy the normal bulbs I use for Fog Lights (Hoen Enduro). I went through three different sets of PSX bulbs just to settle on that the fogs are useless and I have some amber LEDs in there. Albeit it looks nice, I want usability.

Now, I can.

Thank you so very much again for the post. I now realize that these fog lights are shared with various cars just like my heater switches.

Rock on!

White64Goat 10-31-2012 03:52 PM

Let us know if those are the right connectors for the fogs. They look very similar to what is on the back of the fog light and I wonder if they will slide over. I'm wondering if this is on the other end of what you ordered: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/TEMPERATURE-CERAMIC-Headlight-Connector-moisture/dp/B004IA3YQK/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1351709842&sr= 1-1&keywords=H11+connector"]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...6L._AA160_.jpg[/ame]

JonnyRocket 10-31-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 525115)
And all that requires is splicing a PSX24W (PG20) male pigtail to a H11 (PGJ19-2) female pigtail.

Right?

:word:


Quote:

Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 530948)
Let us know if those are the right connectors for the fogs. They look very similar to what is on the back of the fog light and I wonder if they will slide over. I'm wondering if this is on the other end of what you ordered: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...6L._AA160_.jpg

What do you mean "on the other end of what [he] ordered"? He only ordered the connector, there is no other end. He'll cut off the factory connector, pin in the H11 he listed, and plug that into the new fogs. The plug you linked to is also an H11, but the clips are incorrect and it's overpriced. Not to mention unnecessary.

White64Goat 10-31-2012 05:28 PM

J.R., if you had gone to the Amazon site and done a search for H11 connectors, you would see that they sell an H11 connector that has both style ends on it available for purchase. I only used that picture as a reference, not that you should buy that specific end. My question was only that, a question, because it LOOKS like the end ordered might not fit over the factory connector on the fog lamp. If it will, great, then I'll order the same ones when I do mine because they offer more protection to the connector. Was not being critical......if I had been, I'd a said it looks like you ordered the wrong ends.

BMWDavid 11-06-2012 08:24 AM

OK, someone needs to come up with a plug and play pigtail adapter. I know when I bought a set of Euro projector foglights for my MK V GTI from ECS Tuning and they had included a pigtail harness so no cutting or splicing. I'm not a fan of any cutting of wires...like to keep things unmolested.

OrbitalEllipses 11-06-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWDavid (Post 541267)
OK, someone needs to come up with a plug and play pigtail adapter. I know when I bought a set of Euro projector foglights for my MK V GTI from ECS Tuning and they had included a pigtail harness so no cutting or splicing. I'm not a fan of any cutting of wires...like to keep things unmolested.

Read what I said. You can MAKE your own pigtail; stock plug on one side and new on the other. Plugs into the H11 bulb AND stock wire harness.

theredtape 11-06-2012 12:21 PM

Why not just install led psx24ws to get white light instead of yellow? I found these on amazon they other day. [ame="http://www.amazon.com/PSX24W-Light-Replacement-Bulbs-White/dp/B006FYI5WU"]Amazon.com: PSX24W 9009 2504 LED Fog Light Replacement Bulbs White (Pack of 2): Automotive[/ame]
I also have noticed that my foglights really dont do much besides look cool. I really wish I could get my led running lights to come on with the headlights... That would be neat.

xcelir8brz 11-06-2012 05:06 PM

Parts are trickling in. Hope to do this conversion this Friday/weekend.

DaJo 11-07-2012 04:14 AM

I know we can make an adapter for this but if anyone is able to make one of these things; I'm willing to pay for it.

Only way I can think of to make an adapter for this sort of thing is to source out a wrecked vehicle and cut off it's harness for the H11...solder it to a wire on one side but what about the PSX24W side?

How can we deal with that side as the other end is suppose to simulate as the bulb side?:iono:

OrbitalEllipses 11-07-2012 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaJoian (Post 543278)
I know we can make an adapter for this but if anyone is able to make one of these things; I'm willing to pay for it.

Only way I can think of to make an adapter for this sort of thing is to source out a wrecked vehicle and cut off it's harness for the H11...solder it to a wire on one side but what about the PSX24W side?

How can we deal with that side as the other end is suppose to simulate as the bulb side?:iono:

Pigtails of each socket type are commercially available for purchase. Simply splice together. Boom, harness at a fraction of the cost.

xcelir8brz 11-08-2012 05:48 PM

Received all the parts. Verified they all work good together. Will do the install tomorrow. Will take pictures.

So far, very happy with the quality of all parts. Should take an hour to retrofit both fog lights.


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