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86drift 10-26-2012 07:45 AM

XForce Exhausts
 
I thought I'd post it here as this is an Australian only product (as far as I'm aware).

I'm luck enough to be trialing XForce's 3" exhaust system. It's from the 'over pipe' back and includes a 100 cell metal cat, resonator and a muffler at the back. It's fully stainless.

I've uploaded a sound clip to youtube. Sorry about the quality, I just wanted to get something up.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDyNHCb2Lvw"]Toyota 86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ XForce Exhaust 3 Inch - YouTube[/ame]

I'll take pictures tomorrow and will get a sound clip with my race headers installed.

These should be available in time for Christmas!
For pricing and ordering info PM me.

luv85 10-26-2012 07:52 AM

i kinda like this exhaust. but better to see in real I suppose....

86drift 10-26-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by luv85 (Post 521409)
i kinda like this exhaust. but better to see in real I suppose....

It's only been a couple of hours since I've had it, but I like it more than expected. No drone noticed. I'll report again once I do some highway kms.
The sound is deeper and nicer than in the video.

The sound level was lower than I expected from a 3" exhaust. It's 90db at 4k rpm.

ZZT86 10-26-2012 08:07 AM

Pls post good quality sound clip B4 headers, the 1st attempt was awful, reminds me of what TV was like back in the 70's :thumbsup: Nice pics aswell !

86drift 10-26-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 521419)
Pls post good quality sound clip B4 headers, the 1st attempt was awful, reminds me of what TV was like back in the 70's :thumbsup: Nice pics aswell !

Haha. I can take a free revving video, but I don't have a gopro or similar to get good moving sound. Oh, and free revving videos suck :popcorn:

I'll take plenty of good pics :)

tibsy92 10-26-2012 09:40 AM

yeah all my exhaust is xforce but custom chopped with cannons cos i couldnt wait for a release back in july for the 86..
nor can i wait for the headers to be released to the market by xforce.... simply because its local and cheaper and i have no dramas with xforce now or before

so like you know, @86drift remember to keep me informed on any headers available ( yes with a catalytic conv. )

:thumbup:

86drift 10-26-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibsy92 (Post 521484)
yeah all my exhaust is xforce but custom chopped with cannons cos i couldnt wait for a release back in july for the 86..
nor can i wait for the headers to be released to the market by xforce.... simply because its local and cheaper and i have no dramas with xforce now or before

so like you know, @86drift remember to keep me informed on any headers available ( yes with a catalytic conv. )

:thumbup:

They made a set of 4-2-1 headers (not currently on my car) without a cat. They may offer it with a cat also. I'll have more info next week as I work out who I'm getting to build my UEL headers. Yes, they'll have a cat :-)

70NYD 10-26-2012 09:40 PM

I actually like this, has a very nice purrrrr

86drift 10-28-2012 07:56 AM

Ok, so here's another video which I think is a little better.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fci5JdQ29Ig"]Toyota 86/Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ XForce 3" Exhaust Test - YouTube[/ame]

ZZT86 10-28-2012 08:17 AM

Sounds loud, noisy, distorted even. Is it legal? I like Lachute sound best still.

proficience 10-28-2012 08:23 AM

^ mounting a gopro on the back bumper can never really capture the true note of the exhaust.

If we are all interested (pricing might help ;)), OP should do a recording from a few feet back and just do some no load blips just to set the mood first!

86drift 10-28-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 524566)
Sounds loud, noisy, distorted even. Is it legal? I like Lachute sound best still.

Quote:

Originally Posted by proficience (Post 524570)
^ mounting a gopro on the back bumper can never really capture the true note of the exhaust.

If we are all interested (pricing might help ;)), OP should do a recording from a few feet back and just do some no load blips just to set the mood first!

This is a $6 ebay 'spy' camera taped to the tow hook! That's why it sounds distorted.

Tips are not finialised, but there will be an option to use whatever tips you like. Including using the factory ones.

The sound reading was 90db at 4k rpm. This is for the 3" system. 2.5" will be quieter.

Pricing will be far cheaper than the other options out there. When pricing is finialised I'll add it to the classified section.

http://86drift.com/wp-content/flagal...st/rearcar.jpg
http://86drift.com/wp-content/flagal...xhaust/tip.jpg
http://86drift.com/wp-content/flagal...earmuffler.jpg

Surok 10-28-2012 07:51 PM

ooooh looks good!

ZZT86 10-28-2012 10:50 PM

OK then, looks promising. Your custom plate a forerunner to a future Toyota rally team? :thumbsup:

86drift 10-28-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 525463)
OK then, looks promising. Your custom plate a forerunner to a future Toyota rally team? :thumbsup:

I wish they'd pay for it! How about an 86 one make series :thumbup:
It will be a rally car in the next year or two.

ZZT86 10-29-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 525521)
I wish they'd pay for it! How about an 86 one make series :thumbup:
It will be a rally car in the next year or two.


I could definitely see a one-make series ! Toyota has a rich history in motorsport, especially in rallying. :burnrubber: Look forward to more esorst updates. :thumbsup:

alexm86 10-29-2012 06:58 AM

Can't wait to see more on this.

llama_au 10-29-2012 07:26 AM

/subscribes. Looks promising, I like supporting Australian-made wherever possible :)

Cnidus 10-29-2012 10:20 PM

Any options for burnt Ti tips?

just86 10-29-2012 10:24 PM

Wow those look killer

86drift 10-29-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cnidus (Post 527386)
Any options for burnt Ti tips?

You can use whatever tips you like as you can get a version with none and you can use your own. I think it's got 2 1/4 inch tail pipes, same as the factory exhaust.

Panman 10-30-2012 12:05 AM

So what I'd ideally like:

1. Overpipe
2. Front pipe with Cat and Resonator
3. Cat back

All mating up at the factory points so it can mix and match.

Dynos.

86drift 10-30-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panman (Post 527591)
So what I'd ideally like:

1. Overpipe
2. Front pipe with Cat and Resonator
3. Cat back

All mating up at the factory points so it can mix and match.

Dynos.

I'll have to check the that the front pipe to cat-back flange is in the same position as the factory one.
The front pipe does have a cat and resonator.
The overpipe hasn't been made yet. The thing that complicates it on the RHD models is the proximity to the steering box. It will probably need wrapping or coating.

XForce are in the process of getting their own dyno. So they'll be doing performance testing in house. I want to see the performance difference (if any) between the 2.5 and 3 inch systems.

Panman 10-30-2012 01:45 AM

Gold - If I can buy a proven Aussie design I will.

Overpipe seems to give good results in other testing, however if no overpipe, everything behind must bolt up so not a show stopper if price is right.

Turdinator 10-30-2012 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 527635)
I'll have to check the that the front pipe to cat-back flange is in the same position as the factory one.
The front pipe does have a cat and resonator.
The overpipe hasn't been made yet. The thing that complicates it on the RHD models is the proximity to the steering box. It will probably need wrapping or coating.

XForce are in the process of getting their own dyno. So they'll be doing performance testing in house. I want to see the performance difference (if any) between the 2.5 and 3 inch systems.

So there is a 2.5" in development as well? What about a version with Varex?

JDMSushi 10-30-2012 05:00 AM

The Xforce full system we ran on our old Crx with a b16a2 gave the best gains.

Ended up with 100kw @ front wheels with the full system.

86drift 10-30-2012 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 527758)
So there is a 2.5" in development as well? What about a version with Varex?

The 3" system will be released first then the 2.5" will follow.
I'll find out if they've got plans for a Varex system.

ZZT86 10-30-2012 08:32 AM

You could stick a lot of bananas in those tail pipes :lol:

w arghh x 10-30-2012 08:50 AM

Any info on why they went with 3" as their first release? Is it to tap into the FI market or ?? Would think 3" would be excessive for a 2ltr NA motor...

I bought one of the first 3" systems for the VE SS when they first came out and it was definitely one of the best sounding and well priced systems, so I'm excited about this product :)

Thanks for the updates

ZZT86 10-30-2012 09:03 AM

Turbo Charge !

86drift 10-30-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w arghh x (Post 528048)
Any info on why they went with 3" as their first release? Is it to tap into the FI market or ?? Would think 3" would be excessive for a 2ltr NA motor...

I bought one of the first 3" systems for the VE SS when they first came out and it was definitely one of the best sounding and well priced systems, so I'm excited about this product :)

Thanks for the updates

I was thinking the same thing. Surely 2.5" is plenty for a 2l engine.
I believe it's mainly to do with how is sounds. The 3" system has a deep sound and is a little louder. It's just an added bonus the the FI guys will have a 3" option available soon. I think this with the UEL headers of the AVO kit would sound awesome.

I'm looking forward to see back-to-back Dyno testing of the 2.5 vs 3" as I care about performance above all else.

Maj3sty 10-31-2012 06:21 AM

Personally I want a Perrin or Nameless Performance exhaust kit :)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_dimhF4I5Q"]PERRIN BRZ with Exhaust & Front Pipe Driving Compilation - YouTube[/ame]

86drift 10-31-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 527758)
So there is a 2.5" in development as well? What about a version with Varex?

There is in fact a Varex version coming! Due early next year.

The 2.5" and 3" systems will come without tips. You can choose an XForce tip or use your own, including the factory one.

Dyno testing will be done once a 2.5" system is available.

You can buy a cat-back or the full system.

Now working with them to determine what headers they will sell.

Turdinator 10-31-2012 08:33 PM

A 2.5" with varex and stock tips would be awesome!!! Can't wait!

Panman 11-07-2012 06:40 AM

Any updates?

GC GTS Aero Kit 11-07-2012 08:13 AM

Any Ideas on cost?

86drift 11-07-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panman (Post 543348)
Any updates?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GC GTS Aero Kit (Post 543387)
Any Ideas on cost?

PM'd

Panman 11-07-2012 04:48 PM

Can you give me an idea of price for: 2.5" reasonated header back with factory tips?

86drift 11-07-2012 07:55 PM

I do not have pricing yet. When I do I'll add it to the classified section.

Buckstar 11-09-2012 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maj3sty (Post 530142)
Personally I want a Perrin or Nameless Performance exhaust kit :)

PERRIN BRZ with Exhaust & Front Pipe Driving Compilation - YouTube


That Perrin exhaust sounds sweet!


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