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jmaryt 10-18-2012 12:21 PM

turanzas
 
does anybody know to a certainty IF the subies that are comin'
in to the dealers now have bridgestone turanza "all-season" tires on them?
i know the (frs) is landing with the bridgestones on them now!..thanks!

Turbowned 10-18-2012 02:55 PM

I hope you aren't planning on trying to use all-seasons through the winter... jussayin'

Zadkiel 10-18-2012 03:13 PM

You're better off buying a set of winters. The OEM tire is a summer.

Turbowned 10-18-2012 03:21 PM

Well what the OP is saying is that some of the FR-S's are becoming available with all-season tires. I suspect the incoming BRZ's will, too. However, they're still going to be utterly useless once the snow falls. All-season tires don't cut it on a RWD vehicle; ask me how I know.

jmaryt 10-18-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 505574)
I hope you aren't planning on trying to use all-seasons through the winter... jussayin'

yes! i plan to! i don't commute, i am retired,and will be off the road when the storms hit!..jussayin'

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Originally Posted by Zadkiel (Post 505608)
You're better off buying a set of winters. The OEM tire is a summer.

"the oem tire is a summer tire"

yes! i am aware it's the reason why i DON'T want 'em on the car!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 505633)
Well what the OP is saying is that some of the FR-S's are becoming available with all-season tires. I suspect the incoming BRZ's will, too. However, they're still going to be utterly useless once the snow falls. All-season tires don't cut it on a RWD vehicle; ask me how I know.

have driven on "all season" tires in the light snow,and had adequate traction to get home and get off the road! have driven just about everything over a 45 year span,and many sports cars too! sports cars were all rear wheel drive,with "all seasons" tires on them! never experienced any traction issues in "light" snow,but always got off the road when the heavy stuff came! ie:porsche 924s, porsche 944 turbo,mazda miata,plymouth colt turbo (mitsibushi) chevy camaro 6,volkswagon scirroco (f.w.drive)

CBR600RR 10-18-2012 10:13 PM

I consider "all season" tires to me 'no season' tires... They SUCK in all situations!

Admiral Ballsy 10-18-2012 10:27 PM

For six years, I drove a '99 Camaro SS with Yokohama all-seasons for the winter; never had a problem. Indiana isn't New Hampshire, but it's not Florida either. Not as good as a dedicated snow tire, but hardly useless.

DarkSunrise 10-18-2012 10:35 PM

Given that this car was designed with low-grip tires in mind, I think any all-seasons will be fine year-round. Just don't use them in slow/ice conditions.

When you go to the track/autocross, switch to your grippy summer tires.

Admiral Ballsy 10-18-2012 10:43 PM

90% of it is just knowing what you're doing and setting expectations properly. One year it snowed before I had taken the summer tires off and I got stuck on a perfectly flat parking lot with about an inch of snow. Once I put the "useless" all-seasons on, I got around fine.

jmaryt 10-18-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 506757)
For six years, I drove a '99 Camaro SS with Yokohama all-seasons for the winter; never had a problem. Indiana isn't New Hampshire, but it's not Florida either. Not as good as a dedicated snow tire, but hardly useless.

yes with the camaro's weight (ballast) all seasons would definitely do ok! for snow use! my feeling is with the twins,"all- seasons" are just for getting home and getting off the road when the crap starts to accumulate.i feel, the car is just too damn light to be worth two sh*ts traveling in accumulating snow! i'll get home on the "all-seasons" and let 'em plow the roads before i venture out again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 506782)
90% of it is just knowing what you're doing and setting expectations properly. One year it snowed before I had taken the summer tires off and I got stuck on a perfectly flat parking lot with about an inch of snow. Once I put the "useless" all-seasons on, I got around fine.

yes! they do have enough "bite" in light conditions to get it done!

jmaryt 10-18-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 506768)
Given that this car was designed with low-grip tires in mind, I think any all-seasons will be fine year-round. Just don't use them in slow/ice conditions.

When you go to the track/autocross, switch to your grippy summer tires.

even "dedicated" snows slip in ice conditions! super dangerous,especially in a "Light weight" car. black ice,the unseen variety,can be catastrophic!

ngabdala 10-19-2012 08:05 AM

There is no such thing as an All-Season Tire. It is very misleading to call a tire that.

WRXGuy1 10-19-2012 08:58 AM

I remember driving my '11 Legacy with brand new all-seasons in the winter, they SUCKED! I would never trust all-season tires, especially in a RWD car.

Turbowned 10-19-2012 09:58 AM

I don't know but I imagine they must be coming out with all-seasons now. In every experience I've had with RWD in the snow (Camaro, MR2 MK1 and MKII, E30 BMW), all-seasons didn't cut it. I had to switch to dedicated snows in order to get moving if there was more than an inch of snow on the ground. One time in the E30 I got caught on a hill in light snow because some jackass stopped in front of me, and the all-season Michelins wouldn't grip the road enough to get me up the hill; had to turn tail and go the other way! I got caught in a blizzard in my MR2 Turbo before I put my snows on and the all-seasons just barely got me home (I work only 3mi from home); from a stoplight, I had to accelerate at a 45 degree angle for a few hundred yards before the car finally straightened out.

I'd just hate to take the chance of getting stuck driving in it and not having enough grip. Snow tires with dedicated wheels are <$1k and worth every penny IMO. If you think you can get away with not having them, more power to you I guess.


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