Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport (Post 502495)

I bet it is going to be an insert for the front, and a bolt in for the rear.

Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts (Post 534483)

The adjustment in the rear is easy to get to. Just pull the carpet back a bit. The fronts are also pretty easy, but with the original camber plates we have we can't use the adjustment knobs. The NEW (wait till you guys see these!) camber plates allow for enough room on the nut to use the provided knobs.

There is no perch height adjustment like on some koni shocks.

They work amazingly well with the RCE yellows that we have on the car. The yellows feel pretty good on the stock dampers, but used on the konis there is a heightened level of grip. The level of control over the stock dampers when hitting large bumps is amazing.

Tony

Originally Posted by Grimlock (Post 564789)

I'd love a set of Koni shocks on RCE Yellows. I just won't do inserts, though. That's a half-assed solution in my opinion. I don't feel comfortable re-using the stock shocks on aftermarket springs, so I'll wait for good shocks or go to a coilover setup.

I'm getting itchy and I really want to get a new suspension, but I won't go with a half baked solution.

Originally Posted by dale.m (Post 502498)

I ran this exact setup on my D Street Prepared 2002 VW GTI and won just about every autocross I entered by a good second or two. I'm considering a similar setup for this car as the control arms look like they could take a 20mm-30mm drop.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564796)

What is your reasoning behind not liking inserts? Koni has successfully been using the insert system for years. We have actually raced on Koni inserts on all 4 corners for sprint and enduros. If they are installed properly/professionally, inserts work as well as any "regular" struts. We've installed probably 300 sets maybe more in the past 10 years and they perform well and haven't had any issues with longevity. The Koni lifetime warranty is also nice for a street driven car as well.

-Mike Paisan

Originally Posted by Grimlock (Post 564847)

I'm not saying that inserts won't perform well enough. I just don't like cutting apart perfectly functional shocks that I could possibly resell or put back on the car when I want to sell it. I'd rather get full-bodied shocks.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564796)

What is your reasoning behind not liking inserts? Koni has successfully been using the insert system for years. We have actually raced on Koni inserts on all 4 corners for sprint and enduros. If they are installed properly/professionally, inserts work as well as any "regular" struts. We've installed probably 300 sets maybe more in the past 10 years and they perform well and haven't had any issues with longevity. The Koni lifetime warranty is also nice for a street driven car as well.

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 564910)

inserts are a pain in the ass if you don't have access to drills, tube cutting tools and a general work area that would allow you to leak fluid all over and not give a fuck

if i was to get inserts i would have to pay a mechanic quite a hefty sum to install them, the final cost would end up being more than a competitor's off the shelf ready to use unit.

Not everyone has personal garage to tinker in.

Hell, I barely have a space to store my jack and tools!

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564918)

Interesting. When we started we did them on he city streets of NYC. No garage at all. As for making a mess, an oil pan you use for oil changes is all you need to catch the fluid. Cutting tools are a pipe cutter from Home Depot under $15.

I am unaware of any off the shelf units with the performance and warranty of the Konis in he price range.

We only charge about $90 more than a regular spring install to do Konis. So for under 300 labor they can be installed.

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 565234)

I'll admit it's not something that's fun to do, but Konis are pretty darn good shocks and the only option at this point. Bilsteins will come as a full replacement, and be awesome, and we will have a custom valved sport option....but it's gonna be a while.

The inserts are intimidating but I don't know of anyone that's screwed it up. I do recommend getting an extra set of used front struts to use as your donors though.

- Andrew

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564918)

Interesting. When we started we did them on he city streets of NYC. No garage at all. As for making a mess, an oil pan you use for oil changes is all you need to catch the fluid. Cutting tools are a pipe cutter from Home Depot under $15.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564918)

We only charge about $90 more than a regular spring install to do Konis. So for under 300 labor they can be installed.

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 564918)

I am unaware of any off the shelf units with the performance and warranty of the Konis in he price range.