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FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-16-2012 11:33 PM

Buddy Club Racing Spec Coilovers - SpeedFactory Style - Good Photos and Video.
 
Just wanted to drop these here. We sat down and took some time with the couple sets we have on hand to take some quality photos for you guys. :coolpics:

This Buddy Club Racing Spec coilover for the Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ is a JDM spec unit. The intended use of this coilover is for someone who does a few track days a year and some autocrossing. It will also work out well for a daily driver who wants to improve the handling of the FRS/BRZ.


Spring Rate:
Front 9K
Rear 7K


Video Review:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nl3OTup9nM"]Buddy Club Racin Spec Coilover for the Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

Photos:
http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-1.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-2.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-3.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-4.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-5.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-6.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-7.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-8.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/buddyclubRSFRS-9.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/b...ubRSFRS-10.jpg

Racing Spec Damper Kit is a high performance sports suspension kit designed by engineers using a vast quantity of data that Buddy Club has accumulated in the past 15 years using its high performance aluminum damper (ie. spec 30.1 Racing Damper) on various racing cars and tuned cars, focused more on the proper damper size, spring rate, dampening, stroke length for customer's use in winding roads and race tracks. The car specific pillow-ball upper mount design, proper spring rate, 15 level damper adjustment, and height adjustment capabilities accommodates driver's requests.

15 Level Adjustment
The 15 level adjustment corresponds to variety of racing stages, from Touge mountain roads to circuits. Adjustment is easy with its click adjusting dial. The dial is located on the upper shaft for regular dampers or on the lower shaft for inverted dampers. This damper is also designed for town use; hence, dampening setting ranges from hard to soft.

Single tube type shell case
Unlike visual based cartridge damper, adoption of the single tube shell case enables the use of wishbone type 46 and strut type 36. This leaves an extra space for larger pistons. Also this change allows for better heat dissipation, which prevents performance deterioration from hard runs. Special steel and anti-friction components are used to minimize friction.

Specialized Pillow-Upper Mount
Application of the upper pillow upper mount allows you to have greater handling response, by minimizing upper chassis movement. Caster adjustment allows the correction of camber for further tuning ability. Caster adjustment plates are not included on all applications.

Spring seat / lock seat
Each single full rotation equals 2mm drop. The adjusting locking seat allows for spring stress to adjust with out the necessity to change suspension position.

Original spring
Tremendous enhancement in durability resulted from a high quality surface processing. Constant testing resulted in a perfect spring rate for each application.

Racing Spec Dampers inherited the same great quality of the P-1 racing damper. Each Racing Spec Damper is made with special components and are tested and produced with out compromise. Each damper are assembled by skilled engineers to provide the best quality possible.

_F-R-S_ 10-17-2012 07:36 AM

whats the best autox coilover.. plus everyday driver?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-17-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 502327)
whats the best autox coilover.. plus everyday driver?

KW V3. But the price tag is quite a bit higher as well.

dale.m 10-17-2012 10:57 AM

Thanks for the write up! I've been wondering about these for awhile now. MSRP?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-17-2012 07:34 PM

Dale, MSRP on these is $1799. Thank you for the positive post. It's good to see that people are enjoying these threads. :)

ModBargains 10-17-2012 10:19 PM

I had the Buddy Clubs on my Honda Fit and it's definitely a great budget coilover system - I'm pretty sure it's going to be same case for the FRS / BRZ chassis.

-Frank

DOTman05 10-18-2012 12:22 AM

Price?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-18-2012 12:39 AM

MSRP is up above. ;)

DriftEightSix 10-29-2012 09:25 AM

Do I want these or KW v3s?

JoeBoxer 10-29-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 526023)
Do I want these or KW v3s?

These are way stiffer than KW's, depends on how much you value ride quality. Personally i'd take the KW's.

DriftEightSix 10-30-2012 08:28 AM

I do like my ride quality and I feel in stock form I really baby it over speed bumps and stuff so I don't want it to get much worse which i think heaps stiff would do... so KWv3 it is.

Sorry for hi jacking.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-30-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 528034)
I do like my ride quality and I feel in stock form I really baby it over speed bumps and stuff so I don't want it to get much worse which i think heaps stiff would do... so KWv3 it is.

Sorry for hi jacking.

No problem on the hi-jacking. KW V3 are a great coil as well.

Boosted 10-30-2012 02:46 PM

I just ordered a pair and am excited to try them out. Had some friends use these on their track/DD cars and loved them.

-Alex

FT-86 SpeedFactory 11-14-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted (Post 528638)
I just ordered a pair and am excited to try them out. Had some friends use these on their track/DD cars and loved them.

-Alex

Thank you! Holler if you need any help.

empower-auto 11-14-2012 12:13 PM

9/7 ??

sum ting wong

Eau Rouge 11-14-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 556522)
9/7 ??

sum ting wong

+1 on this sentiment. OEM is just below 3/4 (151 lb/in front and 193 lb/in rear, if memory serves) and I would expect any upgrades to follow a similar ratio (unless your trying to create inherent understeer for some reason).

empower-auto 11-14-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eau Rouge (Post 556911)
+1 on this sentiment. OEM is just below 3/4 (151 lb/in front and 193 lb/in rear, if memory serves) and I would expect any upgrades to follow a similar ratio (unless your trying to create inherent understeer for some reason).

Agree... I wonder if Buddy Club forgot that the rear is double wishbone. :brokenheart:

Racecomp Engineering 11-14-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eau Rouge (Post 556911)
+1 on this sentiment. OEM is just below 3/4 (151 lb/in front and 193 lb/in rear, if memory serves) and I would expect any upgrades to follow a similar ratio (unless your trying to create inherent understeer for some reason).

While I agree that 9/7 isn't something I would recommend, following the same exact ratio as OEM isn't something I recommend either. :)

- Andrew

empower-auto 11-14-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 557028)
While I agree that 9/7 isn't something I would recommend, following the same exact ratio as OEM isn't something I recommend either. :)

- Andrew

Ratio doesn't need to be consistent but it's almost like they switched the bitch!

If I decided tomorrow to go 14/18 on my Soarer... i'd spin around a lot

Eau Rouge 11-14-2012 05:40 PM

All good points. I was just using the OEM spec as the starting point to show that the higher spring rate is actually at the rear. If my understanding of the math holds, the wheel rates, after accounting for leverage multipliers, works out to be very close to the same at both ends...

Racecomp Engineering 11-14-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eau Rouge (Post 557216)
All good points. I was just using the OEM spec as the starting point to show that the higher spring rate is actually at the rear. If my understanding of the math holds, the wheel rates, after accounting for leverage multipliers, works out to be very close to the same at both ends...

Correct. See this thread I made:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9936

Sorry for taking this thread off topic!!

- drew

Eau Rouge 11-14-2012 06:37 PM

Thanks Drew and, yes, I did read your excellent thread on the subject. I also have a background in mechanical engineering so those are the sorts of things I tend to pay attention to.

Now, getting back to this particular topic, does anyone know if the spring rates from Buddy Club are correct? I'm wondering if it was reversed or if they meant to set their coil overs up that way. If the latter, I would like to understand what their objective was in doing so. That way I can make a fully informed buying decision, Buddy Club or otherwise.

Anybody know?

Pete156 01-28-2013 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eau Rouge (Post 557366)
Thanks Drew and, yes, I did read your excellent thread on the subject. I also have a background in mechanical engineering so those are the sorts of things I tend to pay attention to.

Now, getting back to this particular topic, does anyone know if the spring rates from Buddy Club are correct? I'm wondering if it was reversed or if they meant to set their coil overs up that way. If the latter, I would like to understand what their objective was in doing so. That way I can make a fully informed buying decision, Buddy Club or otherwise.

Anybody know?

Yes, the spring rates are indeed 9/7. I am impressed with their performance so far.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 01-28-2013 10:53 AM

That's right, the spring rates were not a mistake. There are many people that are running higher rate springs in the front than in the rear. Just because the factory has a higher sprung rear than front from the factory doesn't mean that is the only way you can setup the car.

What it really comes down to is making the car fit your driving style. Some people like the front to feel planted and have lots of turn-in feel with a rear end that is a bit more tame, while others like the rear to be a bit more playful and steer with the throttle.

Lots of SCCA autocrossers are swapping front and rear springs on their KW setup for a more biased front, I remember Sam Strano also running a higher rate up front, and the gentleman in the link below surely likes this exact coilover.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ght=buddy+club

Cheers!
-Yo

FT-86 SpeedFactory 04-01-2013 10:35 PM

With the spring thaw upon us here in Iowa, we are ramping things up for the builds on both cars. STX is the target auto-x class for our Firestorm car, we got a huge chunk of goodies installed that will get us in a competitive state.

First up, suspension. Just a simple bolt on of Buddy Club Racing Spec coilovers for the first round of suspension bits. We are waiting on sway bars from Whiteline to show up on Tuesday.

Already a huge improvement in turn-in and grip from these coils. Steering feel is much heavier over stock and the feedback is still there, just perfect in my opinion. We will see how they perform on track this coming Friday when our local road course opens up for the first open lapping day of the season.

My initial reaction is the ride is quite firm on these. I do have it only 2 clicks from full-stiff, but I am not sure full soft will make it change dramatically. Every bump, crack, and undulation in the road can be felt with this setup. I guess you can say, these are not for the faint of heart.

Today, I went back and adjusted the dampeners. This time I went all the way to 2 clicks from full soft. I can say that the ride dramatically improved. Instead of being shaken to death, the suspension actually eats up some of the bumps and cracks in the road. It is definitely liveable, but barely! People that are more hardcore than myself would be perfectly fine and tell me I am a sissy, I'm sure ;)

More to come on the suspension after our track day :w00t: For now, here are some pics:coolpics:


http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/Red_Enkei_RPF1-2.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/Red_Enkei_RPF1-4.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-10.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-12.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-15.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-18.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-20.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-23.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-24.jpg

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/R...ei_RPF1-27.jpg

SmsAlSuwaidi 04-02-2013 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 834703)
With the spring thaw upon us here in Iowa, we are ramping things up for the builds on both cars. STX is the target auto-x class for our Firestorm car, we got a huge chunk of goodies installed that will get us in a competitive state.

First up, suspension. Just a simple bolt on of Buddy Club Racing Spec coilovers for the first round of suspension bits. We are waiting on sway bars from Whiteline to show up on Tuesday.

Already a huge improvement in turn-in and grip from these coils. Steering feel is much heavier over stock and the feedback is still there, just perfect in my opinion. We will see how they perform on track this coming Friday when our local road course opens up for the first open lapping day of the season.

My initial reaction is the ride is quite firm on these. I do have it only 2 clicks from full-stiff, but I am not sure full soft will make it change dramatically. Every bump, crack, and undulation in the road can be felt with this setup. I guess you can say, these are not for the faint of heart.

Today, I went back and adjusted the dampeners. This time I went all the way to 2 clicks from full soft. I can say that the ride dramatically improved. Instead of being shaken to death, the suspension actually eats up some of the bumps and cracks in the road. It is definitely liveable, but barely! People that are more hardcore than myself would be perfectly fine and tell me I am a sissy, I'm sure ;)

Cant wait for the results !
may i ask how hard is a coil over install in general, and is it something doable with jacks on the weekend ?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 04-03-2013 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 835062)
Cant wait for the results !
may i ask how hard is a coil over install in general, and is it something doable with jacks on the weekend ?

Yes, these are a very simply install. Should take you a few hours with simple hand tools, floor jack, and jack stands.

Pull the spring and strut assemblies off as one piece and install the coilovers as one piece. Adjust the ride height, eyeball alignment, drop her back on the ground, take her to get an alignment, and call it good.

A little more involved than that, but that is basically it :)

Cheers!
-Yo

coachzizi 06-10-2013 12:59 AM

im thinking about tein flex coilovers, do you recommend these over teins for a daily driver looking for comfort and handling if i need it?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 06-10-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachzizi (Post 992301)
im thinking about tein flex coilovers, do you recommend these over teins for a daily driver looking for comfort and handling if i need it?

Teins are not a bad option at all. We stock those as well.

coachzizi 06-10-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 992676)
Teins are not a bad option at all. We stock those as well.

but what is your recommendation....? buddyclubs or teins?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 06-10-2013 04:57 PM

Buddy Club revised the spring rates on the Racing SPEC to be a bit more comfortable and also the lower mount allowing for more height changes.

I'd say go Buddy Club.

asianCHAU 06-08-2014 05:52 AM

@FT-86 SpeedFactory I'm torn between this Buddy Club Racing Specs and RSR Sporti Coilovers. I'm mostly going to commute in this car daily, but also use it for some canyon carving. Which would you recommend?

fooddude 06-08-2014 03:13 PM

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...psd2793e71.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...01255-00-1.jpg

TOM'S 06-16-2014 03:53 PM

Looks like you have a ...DC5 (Acura RSX).. there with the very first version of Racing Spec Dampers that were issued back in roughly 2004-2005. After their first release it was found that the front brackets for DC5/EP3 had a design flaw and were immediately recalled and replaced with a new front lower mount. Quality and control have tremendously improved since then (04-05 pre smart phone, lotta stuff has changed since then) . Last time I checked though, this was FT86club and not Hondatech.

TOM'S 06-16-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianCHAU (Post 1784978)
@FT-86 SpeedFactory I'm torn between this Buddy Club Racing Specs and RSR Sporti Coilovers. I'm mostly going to commute in this car daily, but also use it for some canyon carving. Which would you recommend?

:thumbup: for the RSD's and :thumbup::thumbup: for FT-86 SpeedFactory!

djvue303 03-15-2016 01:51 AM

Hi @FT-86 SpeedFactory,

What is the lowest these coils can drop?
I'm not trying to slam my car, but I do want the want a minimal tire gap. From the looks of the pictures with the red FRS, there's still a large gap, at least from the way that red FRS was set up.

Estey 03-17-2016 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djvue303 (Post 2581552)
Hi @FT-86 SpeedFactory,

What is the lowest these coils can drop?
I'm not trying to slam my car, but I do want the want a minimal tire gap. From the looks of the pictures with the red FRS, there's still a large gap, at least from the way that red FRS was set up.

I have these coils, and youll be able to slam it pretty low if you want to. You'll have no problem getting it to the height you want.

Heres full low
http://s28.postimg.org/ii1j70jk9/IMG_2036.jpg

and this is about an inchish higher
http://s28.postimg.org/4pn4bdssp/IMG_6347.jpg

djvue303 03-17-2016 03:18 AM

Thanks for the images @Estey.

SlammedSilly 03-22-2016 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estey (Post 2584669)
I have these coils, and youll be able to slam it pretty low if you want to. You'll have no problem getting it to the height you want.

Heres full low
http://s28.postimg.org/ii1j70jk9/IMG_2036.jpg

and this is about an inchish higher
http://s28.postimg.org/4pn4bdssp/IMG_6347.jpg

YOUR CAR LOOKS TITS! if you put spacers with stock wheels... the car would look tight man, just an opinion though

Estey 03-22-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedSilly (Post 2592128)
YOUR CAR LOOKS TITS! if you put spacers with stock wheels... the car would look tight man, just an opinion though

Thank you bro!!!:) I was actually running 25mm spacers for that pic, but now I have WedsSport SA-10R's with the blue chrome accent. The second pic is pretty terrible and doesnt do the wheels justice lol


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