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brzninja 10-08-2012 09:03 AM

Ice + windows...
 
So I just got my BRZ last week and was wondering this. When it starts to snow and ice accumulates on the windows, will the car know not to put the windows down that little bit automatically when you open the door? Is there a way to disable that feature?

Unfortunately I live in an apartment complex and have to leave my car parked outside in the parking lot.

I couldn't find anything in the owners guide about it.

Thanks!

whtchocla7e 10-08-2012 09:04 AM

good question

be6sti 10-08-2012 09:06 AM

No probably not my outback still does it but I never had any damage from it


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Flat Black VW 10-08-2012 09:25 AM

You can stop it from doing it by taping down the door switch on the inside of the door frame. Not sure it will hurt anything by letting it do its thing though.

Draco-REX 10-08-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 483157)
You can stop it from doing it by taping down the door switch on the inside of the door frame. Not sure it will hurt anything by letting it do its thing though.

The door switch is fiddly. If you go this route, the best thing to do is hold the switch in and remove the bolt holding it to the body. Then tape it in place.

brzninja 10-08-2012 10:23 AM

Great, I'll have to check that out soon. Thanks for the help, guys!

dolph 10-08-2012 12:02 PM

I was expecting this thread to be about white window tinting.

I'm from Texas. I'll excuse myself now.

mashal 10-08-2012 12:14 PM

Some lock de-ice around the door sill , that's what's helped me over the years with my other wips


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brzninja 10-08-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mashal (Post 483461)
Some lock de-ice around the door sill , that's what's helped me over the years with my other wips


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I'll have to try that! Good idea!:thanks:

CMOS 10-08-2012 10:46 PM

I was under the impression that ice is one of the main reasons the window does that, instead of pulling a large flat chunk of ice all at once, the window pulls the rubber down causing it to unroll from the ice mm by mm in a direction where glass is strongest.

fistpoint 10-08-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dolph (Post 483440)
I was expecting this thread to be about white window tinting.

I'm from Texas. I'll excuse myself now.

Me too, we don't belong in snow threads...but I knew it had something to do with the absurd auto-window crackie feature that I am positive is going to break eventually or at the very least cause issues when the car has aged.

And what I was looking for was a method to disable it, which has been provided. Although I would rather have it done with a fuse or reprogramming it.

Give it some time, we will have programming codes using the dashboard buttons for various things soon enough, unless all of that is done with the Techstream now.

Subie 10-08-2012 11:32 PM

Would the doors even be able to open if the windows did not drop? The BRZ is not the only car with frameless windows; how do other cars' owners cope with winter weather?

einzlr 10-09-2012 01:02 AM

That feature is there to protect the windows; you wouldn't want to disable it. If the ice is really frozen hard holding the glass, then de-icer as already mentioned, otherwise just scrape it away before opening the door to keep it from falling inside the car. Oh, and you didn't ask, but don't even think about using warm/hot water to melt it. Many a windshield has been cracked by this method ;)

brzninja 10-09-2012 08:18 AM

Thanks for all the advice, everyone. I have frameless doors with my old car (Subi Legacy) but those windows did not go down when you opened the door. I think my best bet is this de-icer everyone is speaking of. Hopefully this winter will be very mild. Wow, I can't believe I just said that...I sort of miss my AWD car now :(

wbradley 10-09-2012 10:36 AM

Not sure how far back this thread dates in case this is a repost...


Try spraying silicone lubricant on a cloth and wiping it down on all the rubber seal surfaces that *might* stick to ice. It looks good on the rubber, it is a water barrier (no stick), and it worked great for my xB last winter.

einzlr 10-09-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brzninja (Post 485293)
Thanks for all the advice, everyone. I have frameless doors with my old car (Subi Legacy) but those windows did not go down when you opened the door. I think my best bet is this de-icer everyone is speaking of. Hopefully this winter will be very mild. Wow, I can't believe I just said that...I sort of miss my AWD car now :(

Trying to ease your mind here. It's really not all that bad. I've spent plenty of fierce winters with the car (with auto-drop windows) parked outside and this was never one of the things we worried about. More annoying are things like the tires being frozen in place from a partial thaw followed by re-freeze. Get the de-icer (at auto supply stores or the auto section of Home Depot etc or even the drug store) and a good scraper, also the rubber care (silicone lube) already mentioned can also help, and you'll be fine :)

edit: also give the car a couple good coats of wax before the snow comes. You won't be able to wax it during the winter plus this makes the snow come off a little easier

SubieNate 10-09-2012 02:52 PM

The window actually goes up into a little groove in the upper rubber trim so I'd think that keeping it from coming down would potentially damage the trim and/or the window. No?

It does this to keep the noise increase caused by frameless windows to a minimum and I love it. My old Impreza windows howled at speed.

I see no reason that the system would break, it's using nothing complicated and pulls down using the same window motor as rolling your windows down would. unlike some of the German cars that actually have motorized door trim.

Nathan

Rayme 10-09-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by einzlr (Post 485764)
Trying to ease your mind here. It's really not all that bad. I've spent plenty of fierce winters with the car (with auto-drop windows) parked outside and this was never one of the things we worried about. More annoying are things like the tires being frozen in place from a partial thaw followed by re-freeze. Get the de-icer (at auto supply stores or the auto section of Home Depot etc or even the drug store) and a good scraper, also the rubber care (silicone lube) already mentioned can also help, and you'll be fine :)

edit: also give the car a couple good coats of wax before the snow comes. You won't be able to wax it during the winter plus this makes the snow come off a little easier

+1, I had celicas during winter with frameless windows and often the windows would be quite stuck against the rubber frame. A little tugging and patience when the weather sucks is all that's required, I have yet to see a weather stripping get damaged from frozen doors (as far as toyota's and honda go :lol: ).

Windows are pretty "soft" where they are mounted inside the door. I'm sure you could open those doors even if the windows was totally stuck in the up position.

I once used GE silicone II from a tube and spreaded it against the rubber with a gloves, it leaves a thin layer and help with ice, you can then easily scrap it with your bare fingers when winter's over.

Accurate Race Shop 10-09-2012 03:26 PM

I had a mustang that did this the best way is to wipe the snow off the top of the window before you open it. Mine never froze shut the window motor was always strong enough to pull it down. But it might take a second make sure you wait for it to slip down or you could break something pulling on it.

brzninja 10-09-2012 05:00 PM

Wow more responses! I didn't think this thread would be so popular. Thanks again for all the suggestions and comments. I've never had such an "exotic" car before so I've been extra careful and don't want anything happening to it. I'd like to keep it as pristine as possible until I own a house with a garage...going to be the longest few years of my life!

Anyway! Lots of insightful comments. I never thought of that rubber lip that hangs over the window that would hinder it from opening the door if it doesn't do its auto drop down action. I suppose we will find out once winter hits.

Maybe the landlord will let me build a makeshift mini-garage just for my car...I'm a upstanding tenant.....hmmm.

Accurate Race Shop 10-09-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brzninja (Post 486190)
Wow more responses! I didn't think this thread would be so popular. Thanks again for all the suggestions and comments. I've never had such an "exotic" car before so I've been extra careful and don't want anything happening to it. I'd like to keep it as pristine as possible until I own a house with a garage...going to be the longest few years of my life!

Anyway! Lots of insightful comments. I never thought of that rubber lip that hangs over the window that would hinder it from opening the door if it doesn't do its auto drop down action. I suppose we will find out once winter hits.

Maybe the landlord will let me build a makeshift mini-garage just for my car...I'm a upstanding tenant.....hmmm.

I know they are a serious pain in the butt. but you could get a cover the ice and snow make them heavy to get off but it would definitely solve your problem

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Laika 10-09-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brzninja (Post 485293)
I sort of miss my AWD car now :(

Hah. I read that thinking "hm, good thing I live in PA where it doesn't matter"

;)

I'm thinking about investing in a car cover for this purpose.

brzninja 10-09-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 486551)
Hah. I read that thinking "hm, good thing I live in PA where it doesn't matter"

;)

I'm thinking about investing in a car cover for this purpose.

If it's anything like last winter in PA (at least in Pittsburgh) I won't have to worry about a thing!

rice_classic 10-09-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot (Post 485933)
Does it matter what I say when avatar is this badass!?!!

FTFY. :respekt:


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