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GT-ROKIN 10-08-2012 01:27 AM

RX8 out Ran My FRS (Rotary Vs Flat 4)
 
After an argument about which car is better, my friend who owns a 2006 Mazda Rx8 VS my FRS.

1/4 Mile Run

On the launch i was a head for like a few second in sport mode using the paddle shifters perfectly, but for some reason i can feel my car maxing out and not moving a fast as i think it would, on each gear high revs and that feeling of getting tossed back in to the seats was missing. i felt oddly out of place.(Felt like i was driving a Hyundai). However, the RX8(also AT W/Paddle Shifters) took the victory by one car length +.

HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING!! :slap:

I dont know if this might be a flaw in my car, or the it has some thing to do with the ECU or Tranny / something else.... any ideas?

Or Rotary Engines Totally Have the upper hand (which i refused to believe):paddle:

RowTarEEE 10-08-2012 01:29 AM

The FR-S should eat an automatic RX-8 alive. Now, a manual RX-8 with comparable drivers will beat a manual FR-S/BRZ every single time. Don't know how you lost to that RX-8. Source: I have both cars

Tanuki 10-08-2012 01:33 AM

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CBR600RR 10-08-2012 02:06 AM

@RowTarEEE

IT was an auto FR-S vs a auto RX8, the RX8 has a slightly better power to weight ratio ans more revs per gear.

I am not surprised the RX8 won. Even for a manual vs manual i would expect the RX8 to win (not by much)

vang 10-08-2012 03:31 AM

What the fuq are you two doing drag racing two slow cars intended for fun in the twisties? LOL

Also, that was a lame Hyundai comment. FYI, the Genesis will smoke you in YOUR game, the 1/4 mile.

KnwsAThngOr2AbutAThngOr2 10-08-2012 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vang (Post 482968)
What the fuq are you two doing drag racing two slow cars intended for fun in the twisties? LOL

Also, that was a lame Hyundai comment. FYI, the Genesis will smoke you in YOUR game, the 1/4 mile.

I believe he was referring to the Accent, not the Genesis. :thumbsup:

glorydays 10-08-2012 04:22 PM

Well the 13b is the bigger motor 1.3x2=2.6l of displacement vs. 2.0. Don't underestimate the rotary :) I think the problem youre actually having is that you're drag racing the frs and expecting it to win...

Wolfking 10-08-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

RX8 out Ran My FRS...


In a straight line it did!


(Remember! You're not in a drag car!)

hippari 10-08-2012 04:38 PM

Few years back I raced my 5spd 99 Miata against an 04 RX-8 auto. I had been driving stick for literally all of two weeks and missed third gear on both my runs.

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2270/d100205.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2270/d100205.jpg

I still remember how slow it was compared to my FR-S, so like...I dunno, hit them flappy paddles faster?

RowTarEEE 10-08-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 483971)
Well the 13b is the bigger motor 1.3x2=2.6l of displacement vs. 2.0. Don't underestimate the rotary :) I think the problem youre actually having is that you're drag racing the frs and expecting it to win...

^13b is not the bigger motor. 1.3 liters is still 1.3 liters lol. And I wasn't aware the automatic FR-S was that much slower than a manual? I know the RX-8 automatic is a lot slower than a manual. It had 7,500RPM and produced significantly lower HP than the 9,000RPM manual.

DarkSunrise 10-08-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowTarEEE (Post 482784)
Now, a manual RX-8 with comparable drivers will beat a manual FR-S/BRZ every single time.

Are you sure about that? They seem dead-even on paper (both tested by C/D):

RX-8 R3 / FR-S

0-60: 6.3 s / 6.4 s
0-100: 16.9 s / 16.6 s
1/4: 14.9@94 / 14.9@95

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...powertrain.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...fr-s-specs.pdf

be6sti 10-08-2012 04:55 PM

Call me a liar or whatever but I took an rx8 I believe it must have been an auto in the 1/8th mile drag in my 03 outback 5spd with just a catback and an intake....


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RowTarEEE 10-08-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 484020)
Are you sure about that? They seem dead-even on paper (both tested by C/D):

RX-8 R3 / FR-S

0-60: 6.3 s / 6.4 s
0-100: 16.9 s / 16.6 s
1/4: 14.9@94 / 14.9@95

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...powertrain.pdf

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...fr-s-specs.pdf

I have a series 1 MT '04 RX-8 which quoted 14.3 at the 1/4th. In this article from caranddriver, 14.5 for MT. " the RX-8 scooted to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96 mph." You are quoting the series II RX-8 R3 which is heavier. Besides, the OP raced an automatic RX-8, which is significantly slower than a MT with only 7,500RPM redline

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...da-rx-8-page-4.

glorydays 10-08-2012 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RowTarEEE (Post 484005)
^13b is not the bigger motor. 1.3 liters is still 1.3 liters lol. And I wasn't aware the automatic FR-S was that much slower than a manual? I know the RX-8 automatic is a lot slower than a manual. It had 7,500RPM and produced significantly lower HP than the 9,000RPM manual.

You're right 654cc per rotor. I stand corrected.:thumbup:


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