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paros28 10-06-2012 01:05 PM

ECU reset after Break-In
 
Is it a good idea to reset the ECU (disconnect/reconnect battery) after break-in (at 1000 miles/1600 Kms)?

CBR600RR 10-06-2012 01:25 PM

Ya sure why not.

zoomzoomers 10-06-2012 01:28 PM

My 2 cents here, but I don't see why people keep wanting to reset the ECU. The ECU is supposed to keep varying different variables of the vehicle based on the parameters set at the factory. Such as fuel/air ratios and other things. I'm no expert, but reseting will only just restart the process of it doing what it does. Reseting it won't change the parameters set at the factory.

Dunno maybe an expert can chime in here...

lordtakuban 10-06-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 480125)
My 2 cents here, but I don't see why people keep wanting to reset the ECU. The ECU is supposed to keep varying different variables of the vehicle based on the parameters set at the factory. Such as fuel/air ratios and other things. I'm no expert, but reseting will only just restart the process of it doing what it does. Reseting it won't change the parameters set at the factory.

Dunno maybe an expert can chime in here...

That's mostly right and I'm not necessarily an expert, but I do know quite a bit about ECU's.

Resetting the ECU will have it re-learn its parameters for things like how much fuel at what RPM and load can it run without causing knock within tolerances of the stock base maps.

I don't think you'll gain much benefit out of resetting your ECU after an oil change. It shouldn't cause much harm though. FWIW, I did not reset my ECU after doing an oil change.

jpit 10-06-2012 03:43 PM

Toyota and Subaru have said that the ECU learns during the first 100 miles and not all that much after that. They said that the reason for the rough idle and stalling that some drivers are experiencing is the result of the ECU trying to operate outside its original learning curve. Toyota is replacing ECUs and Subaru is reflashing theirs.

What I don't understand is if they tell you to keep the rpms under 4000 for the first 1000 miles how can the ECU accurately learn your driving habits?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...stalling-issue

paros28 10-06-2012 08:18 PM

Thanks all for your comments. Let me clarify. I don't have the CEL/Idle problem. And my rationale for ECU reset (not reflash) is that my driving pattern will change after break-in. I will be routinely going past 4000 rpms. So I'm thinking a reset would help the ECU re-learn my new driving pattern and adapt engine parameters accordingly.

jpit 10-07-2012 12:02 AM

If you read that article it appears that resetting the ECU will not do that much. It is why Toyota is replacing theirs and Subaru is reflashing theirs.

boead 02-19-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit (Post 480328)
Toyota and Subaru have said that the ECU learns during the first 100 miles and not all that much after that. They said that the reason for the rough idle and stalling that some drivers are experiencing is the result of the ECU trying to operate outside its original learning curve. Toyota is replacing ECUs and Subaru is reflashing theirs.

What I don't understand is if they tell you to keep the rpms under 4000 for the first 1000 miles how can the ECU accurately learn your driving habits?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...stalling-issue

I wasn't afraid to rev the motor the first 100 miles. The pros do!
Ive had ALOT of cars in my time (showing my age!)

Ranatsu 02-19-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit (Post 480328)
Toyota and Subaru have said that the ECU learns during the first 100 miles and not all that much after that. They said that the reason for the rough idle and stalling that some drivers are experiencing is the result of the ECU trying to operate outside its original learning curve. Toyota is replacing ECUs and Subaru is reflashing theirs.

What I don't understand is if they tell you to keep the rpms under 4000 for the first 1000 miles how can the ECU accurately learn your driving habits?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...stalling-issue

Usually after a certain RPM when the engine changes from closed to open loop, there is limited learning the ECU can do and compensate for. At that point it can really only add/pull timing and add/remove fuel based on the long term learning etc..

The ecu probably goes into open loop at 4000 rpm.


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