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Synack 10-03-2012 12:10 AM

White Ranger is boosted [VIDEO]
 
Hey guys, quite a few of you are following my thread and not everyone knows about it but here's the first video. Enjoy! :burnrubber:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9wJiQecFs"]Scion FR-S Turbocharged - D3 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOItZX2sDw"]Scion FR-S Turbo (Pull from a dig) - YouTube[/ame]
Dyno vid
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga7WkIOXLYY"]D3PE FRS/BRZ KLR Turbo System - YouTube[/ame]

Turbo Brand - Precision
Flash type - ProEFI custom tune
PSI - 8.5
Octane rating - 93
Output - 301whp

+ Meth Inj

Texas BRZ 10-03-2012 12:14 AM

Nice. :D

boonFRS 10-03-2012 12:14 AM

I see the dreaded CEL SL light

Shin 10-03-2012 12:28 AM

Haha nice, can't wait to see more videos.

Synack 10-03-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boonFRS (Post 473241)
I see the dreaded CEL SL light

It's because of the ProEFI ECU unit. The car thankfully does not have the idle cam sprocket problem.

czar07 10-03-2012 11:28 AM

wow thats pretty nice. Hows the lag?

post_break 10-03-2012 12:31 PM

Check engine light, blurry dark video, cmon man. Where is the dyno video, where is the 0-60?

Synack 10-03-2012 12:34 PM

When it was at 301whp, it was at 8.5psi. I have no internal work done. I won't do any internals unless I go above about 325whp.

I haven't driven a ton of turbocharged cars but I can tell that the lag on this Precision turbo is minimal.

empower-auto 10-03-2012 12:36 PM

300whp at 8.5psi ... this car is a dream :)

Synack 10-03-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by post_break (Post 473890)
Check engine light, blurry dark video, cmon man. Where is the dyno video, where is the 0-60?

Lol, I got back the car last night, friend was holding the camera, CEL is unavoidable with this setup. I may buy the better ProEFI box and can get rid of the CEL and traction light, but it's not on the top of my to-do list.

You'll have to wait for ANTI_LAG, Dave, from D3 Performance to post the dyno video.

jadewbj 10-03-2012 12:38 PM

Are you on pump gass or E85?

Synack 10-03-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 473909)
Are you on pump gass or E85?

93 for now, I'll be purchasing the E85 sensor within a few months. That's all it takes to go E85 with ProEFI.

Maybe for a Christmas present ;)

jadewbj 10-03-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 473916)
93 for now, I'll be purchasing the E85 sensor within a few months. That's all it takes to go E85 with ProEFI.

Maybe for a Christmas present ;)

So excited to see that you are on 93. I don't want to go E85 and love that you are making 300 WHP with the kit.

If I may ask, what is the approx cost of the setup so far?

Synack 10-03-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 473945)
So excited to see that you are on 93. I don't want to go E85 and love that you are making 300 WHP with the kit.

If I may ask, what is the approx cost of the setup so far?

I'm going to get the sensor just so I can have the luxury to put in E85 whenever I want.

Not sure if D3 would mind that I say how much I paid for the kit. They are still working on pricing and availability. I know they will competitively price it. I paid about $2000 between exhaust and ProEFI though. I'm sure you could ballpark it with that info.

jadewbj 10-03-2012 01:05 PM

Thanks, good to know.

Eurasianman 10-03-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 474005)
Please help me understand this. Stock, these cars have 12.5:1 CR. How are you able to run 8.5 lbs of boost and NOT have detonation problems? Most turbo cars, even those that are inter-cooled, have CR's in the 7.5 - 8.5 range.

Interesting question. I'd like to know the answer as well. My Cobalt compression ratio was 9.2:1 and it was pushing 21-22 PSI on 93 Octane.

jeebus 10-03-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 474005)
Please help me understand this. Stock, these cars have 12.5:1 CR. How are you able to run 8.5 lbs of boost and NOT have detonation problems? Most turbo cars, even those that are inter-cooled, have CR's in the 7.5 - 8.5 range.

Direct injection.

ichitaka05 10-03-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 474005)
Please help me understand this. Stock, these cars have 12.5:1 CR. How are you able to run 8.5 lbs of boost and NOT have detonation problems? Most turbo cars, even those that are inter-cooled, have CR's in the 7.5 - 8.5 range.

Also wasn't AP1 running 12.1:1? I see those car turbo w high boost and stock internal all the time.

Guff 10-03-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 474005)
Please help me understand this. Stock, these cars have 12.5:1 CR. How are you able to run 8.5 lbs of boost and NOT have detonation problems? Most turbo cars, even those that are inter-cooled, have CR's in the 7.5 - 8.5 range.

Don was running 20 something PSI on his BRZ. Making 460ish whp...


On E85, of course, but still, don't underestimate this engine! I can only imagine what people will push on Forged Internals...

jadewbj 10-03-2012 03:01 PM

I think the direct injection and the talent of the ecu tuning community can compensate for quite a bit.

I for one am excited that I can hope for a bolt on turbo kit running relatively low boost to make 300WHP and still be reliable.

I wonder how high crawford will push the boost.

Synack 10-03-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 474185)
Don was running 20 something PSI on his BRZ. Making 460ish whp...


On E85, of course, but still, don't underestimate this engine! I can only imagine what people will push on Forged Internals...

Thanks for answering. I started getting confused as to why people were asking this question when there are multiple turbos on this forum pushing more power than me.

Eurasianman 10-03-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 474185)
On E85, of course, but still, don't underestimate this engine! I can only imagine what people will push on Forged Internals...

Well, IMO first things first, we gotta get rid of this CEL issues people are having :bonk:

Would suck to drop a turbo on this car and then a month later, have the CEL issue. Don't see that going over well.

US FR-S/BRZ owner: I swear that this car came boosted from the factory! It's the JDM version :rolleyes:

Guff 10-03-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurasianman (Post 474322)
Well, IMO first things first, we gotta get rid of this CEL issues people are having :bonk:

Would suck to drop a turbo on this car and then a month later, have the CEL issue. Don't see that going over well.

US FR-S/BRZ owner: I swear that this car came boosted from the factory! It's the JDM version :rolleyes:

According to Jalopnik, the fix now is simply an ECU Reflash for Cam Sprocket problem.

But we are getting Off Topic now...

Eurasianman 10-03-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 474334)
According to Jalopnik, the fix now is simply an ECU Reflash for Cam Sprocket problem.

But we are getting Off Topic now...

Sorry :bonk:

Boosted FTW! :D

tnt 10-03-2012 04:51 PM

Very nicely done.....

mattles 10-03-2012 06:38 PM

To broadly answer the questions of how you run boost on an engine with 12.5:1 CR:
Learn to tune.

Compression ratio doesnt prevent boost from working, nor does it cause an engine to blow up fantastically.

To put it very simply, the amount of fuel and timing is what essentially keeps your engine from knocking and eventually exploding. Figure out how to safely and reliably supply the needed fuel while running an appropriate amount of timing, and like magic the engine makes a metric fuckton more power without blowing up.

Im not gonna sit here and say its easy -- it takes time and patience to learn how to modify the tune of an EFI vehicle safely and reliably -- but its not exactly rocket science either.

Synack 10-03-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattles (Post 474685)
To broadly answer the questions of how you run boost on an engine with 12.5:1 CR:
Learn to tune.

Compression ratio doesnt prevent boost from working, nor does it cause an engine to blow up fantastically.

To put it very simply, the amount of fuel and timing is what essentially keeps your engine from knocking and eventually exploding. Figure out how to safely and reliably supply the needed fuel while running an appropriate amount of timing, and like magic the engine makes a metric fuckton more power without blowing up.

Im not gonna sit here and say its easy -- it takes time and patience to learn how to modify the tune of an EFI vehicle safely and reliably -- but its not exactly rocket science either.

Well put. I remember seeing some notes from the guys tuning my car and on the "to-do" list was "Finish magical tune" haha.

The car really does feel different at different RPM's. At some points the tune is perfect and others it needs some fine tuning. They aren't finished with my car yet though. We are running Meth however and that helps with knock.

Snoopyalien24 10-03-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadewbj (Post 474231)
I think the direct injection and the talent of the ecu tuning community can compensate for quite a bit.

I for one am excited that I can hope for a bolt on turbo kit running relatively low boost to make 300WHP and still be reliable.

I wonder how high crawford will push the boost.

This is perfect. especially to get rid of those pesky Camaro's/Mustang's/Skittles around here trying to race everyone

Snoopyalien24 10-03-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 474334)
According to Jalopnik, the fix now is simply an ECU Reflash for Cam Sprocket problem.

But we are getting Off Topic now...

We need to make a thread Turbo specified but make it say

Turbo Brand
Flash type
PSI
Octane rating
Output

and have them by general brand or the ones being sold here on the Forum - so when one wants to buy a Turbo and may be less knowlegable about them, i.e. me lol, it can make things easier

dhpinoy 10-03-2012 11:14 PM

hahahah. my reaction when it started... "OOOOOOOOOOOOO HOHOHOHOHOHOOOOOOOOO SHIT!!!!!" how much?

Synack 10-04-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhpinoy (Post 475187)
hahahah. my reaction when it started... "OOOOOOOOOOOOO HOHOHOHOHOHOOOOOOOOO SHIT!!!!!" how much?

lol!

Synack 10-04-2012 01:10 AM

Turbo Brand - Precision
Flash type - ProEFI custom tune
PSI - 8.5
Octane rating - 93
Output - 301whp

And to be honest the tuning isn't even complete, we could go a bit higher on the same boost level once they are able to get more cam control and fine tune everything else.

ebhopal 10-04-2012 04:22 AM

Nice!

Got3n 10-04-2012 09:54 AM

Man i can't wait to get mine so I can get this puppy put in it.

dhpinoy 10-04-2012 01:51 PM

Can we get another, longer video?

Synack 10-08-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhpinoy (Post 476222)
Can we get another, longer video?

Yeah, sort of. I've been really busy lately.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOItZX2sDw"]Scion FR-S Turbo (Pull from a dig) - YouTube[/ame]

Synack 10-09-2012 01:24 PM

These damn tires have an assload of grip. It's really hard to break it loose. I might go down to 245 from 255 in width and maybe less grippier tires. Good for drag, not so much for drift.

DBacon1052 10-09-2012 01:31 PM

Where did you get the turbo done? I live in the Woodlands and I'm really considering it.

Synack 10-09-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBacon1052 (Post 485700)
Where did you get the turbo done? I live in the Woodlands and I'm really considering it.

D3 Performance

PM 'ANTI_LAG' here on the forums.

Ryuu0u 10-09-2012 01:49 PM

Wait a minute I think i recognize that street in the second vid. If I ever see you on my bike let's play :3


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