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bc_106 09-19-2011 10:19 AM

Recaro seats?
 
Who would like to have the OEM option of recaro seats similar to those found available for the megane rs and golf R?

Levi 09-19-2011 11:54 AM

LOL, your first post. Welcome.

I would just like some good looking, good supporting and light seats. I don't want to change them, until my car gets full track conversion.

Toyota fr-s 09-19-2011 01:20 PM

All, please keep in mind toyota wants this car to be affordable... with all these options/wish-lists people are throwing in, this will be everything but affordable.

I've seen a lot of: "infotaiment systems", wheels and tires, brembos and now recaros....

I wish the car could come with all of these and still be priced low but I doupt that will happen.

madfast 09-19-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyota fr-s (Post 60555)
All, please keep in mind toyota wants this car to be affordable... with all these options/wish-lists people are throwing in, this will be everything but affordable.

I've seen a lot of: "infotaiment systems", wheels and tires, brembos and now recaros....

I wish the car could come with all of these and still be priced low but I doupt that will happen.

He said OPTION. i hope toyota/subaru lavishes us with options. much better than trying to find aftermarket parts that may or may not fit perfectly. i personally wouldnt get the recaros, but i'd be all over a brembo option.

RRnold 09-19-2011 01:56 PM

Not me and doubt it'll even be an OEM option. Look what Scion currently offers as "interior options" and you're looking at shift knobs, door sills, remote start etc.

Toyota fr-s 09-19-2011 02:02 PM

I understand he said options.. but what I mean is that with all these options the price will no longer be around 20K...

ichitaka05 09-19-2011 02:03 PM

Bring old quote into this thread for newbies... BUT don't expect this to come true in US

One of quote from from Hot Version (Vol 103) interviewing Tada-san

Quote:

Is there gonna be motor sport grade base?
I will make sure to make that kind of grade or model. Will be making one that people will say "You gonna go this far?"

madfast 09-19-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyota fr-s (Post 60559)
I understand he said options.. but what I mean is that with all these options the price will no longer be around 20K...

well as long as it's not forced upon you, the price will still be 20k-ish... :iono:

but having more options for those who can afford it is better than having a bargain basement sports car...

4agze 09-19-2011 04:30 PM

Nah i dont think they will be an option or me getting one if ever they do i rather spend that money on a full bucket seat, but i will get a brembo option if they do.

blacknbean 09-19-2011 04:49 PM

i hope they include something comprable to ctr/itr seats. those are great for the street and doable for the track. they should last a while until i convert the car to track only and go for fixed back racing buckets.

Neutral_Eyes 09-19-2011 06:54 PM

WRX seats felt great to me. I'd be good with those. Recaros or any brand name seat is just going to run up the price. But sure, the single option would be fine, just don't bundle it in a massive package.

Slide 09-19-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyota fr-s (Post 60555)
All, please keep in mind toyota wants this car to be affordable... with all these options/wish-lists people are throwing in, this will be everything but affordable.

I've seen a lot of: "infotaiment systems", wheels and tires, brembos and now recaros....

I wish the car could come with all of these and still be priced low but I doupt that will happen.


lol the infotaiment one is saying we want hardly anything just something to plug our phones/iphones in to pplay music 80% people don't even want a screen...

Brembos are on the latest concept so we are hopeing they will come out on the prod...

They had nice bucket seats in the first conp... didn't have a brand but why not a nice branded bucket seat..?

Random_Art 09-19-2011 08:43 PM

why does it matter what brand they are as long as they're comfortable and supportive?

MiguelAE86 09-19-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 60560)
Is there gonna be motor sport grade base?
I will make sure to make that kind of grade or model. Will be making one that people will say "You gonna go this far?"

Can someone explain this to me in plain english? :iono: (not engrish lol)

Random_Art 09-19-2011 09:06 PM

I assume they mean something like the Genesis R-spec.

A barebones car that lacks certain luxuries (like AC) to save weight and still has some other upgrades like beefier brakes and stiffer suspension

blur 09-19-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 60631)
why does it matter what brand they are as long as they're comfortable and supportive?

Because being a top of the line brand, there is a reputation for comfort and support which we won't have to worry about with generic brands. Not to mention the added aroma of sitting in a seat that has proven itself in many racing applications. Basically, it's for those of us who don't want to swap seats in the future, OEM quality FTMFW. It's one less thing to worry about replacing.

I'd be down for that option. Especially considering it's going to be cheaper than going for the aftermarket equivalent (toyota will buy in bulk)

I'm really hoping for a nice track edition, with BBK, Recaros, lightweight alloys, sticky thread, aggressive exhaust, and sport-tuned suspension.

82mm 4g63 09-19-2011 09:42 PM

Sure, as long as they're an OPTION. I might be the odd man out, but I do not like Recaro seats. I've never been in a Recaro racing seat that I considered comfortable and the aftermarket seats were mediocre for daily driving at best. I'll take Bride seats every time over Recaro.

Having said that, the LAST thing I'm interested in changing are the seats. lol. Import Tuner Magazine tryouts aren't a high priority for me.

Giccin 09-19-2011 11:15 PM

Why don't you guys like Recaro? :( It's built to fit small people! LOL Small thin Japanese-ish people like myself. Haha.

Bride seats are a bit on the widthy side for me. But then again... you gotta sit in all of them to like the one you want. Can't be too brand specific. Lol

4agze 09-19-2011 11:27 PM

If its this one ill sign up in a heart beat but not going to happen lol

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/5ca0d59f.jpg

Slide 09-20-2011 12:13 AM

lol yeah i might buy it... but i want it in leather :P(JK!!)

chulooz 09-20-2011 12:54 AM

I'd like to see folks get the option, but I'd certainly rather the most basic set-up for future swappage.

wreq5 09-20-2011 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 60631)
why does it matter what brand they are as long as they're comfortable and supportive?

^^^THIS my friends is the smartest thing I heard anyone say about anything regarding Recaro seats on the FT-86.

Seriously, the brand name does not matter in this case. A recaro is a recaro but a simple supportive/comfortable seat is all you really need.

blur 09-20-2011 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wreq5 (Post 60679)
^^^THIS my friends is the smartest thing I heard anyone say about anything regarding Recaro seats on the FT-86.

Seriously, the brand name does not matter in this case. A recaro is a recaro but a simple supportive/comfortable seat is all you really need.

It's like saying why buy volks when you can buy rotas.

CyberFormula 09-20-2011 01:51 AM

is there a generic brand bucket seat that is FIA approved ?

was going to go to SEMA to see if i can try on Brides or STatus seats

CyberFormula 09-20-2011 02:35 AM

I think i should add...

Finding an aftermarket seat i think is easier than finding an aftermarket steering wheel.

I can hardly find any steering wheeel that looks good. Usually only Sparco or Momo is talked about. Anything else?

:offtopic:

looking for something like the
http://www.sparcousa.com/psteering_comp.asp?id=281

but with a Steering wheel guide at the 12'o clock

Allch Chcar 09-20-2011 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 60641)
Because being a top of the line brand, there is a reputation for comfort and support which we won't have to worry about with generic brands. Not to mention the added aroma of sitting in a seat that has proven itself in many racing applications. Basically, it's for those of us who don't want to swap seats in the future, OEM quality FTMFW. It's one less thing to worry about replacing.

I'd be down for that option. Especially considering it's going to be cheaper than going for the aftermarket equivalent (toyota will buy in bulk)

I'm really hoping for a nice track edition, with BBK, Recaros, lightweight alloys, sticky thread, aggressive exhaust, and sport-tuned suspension.

You have won me to your side by your good arguement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 60668)
Why don't you guys like Recaro? :( It's built to fit small people! LOL Small thin Japanese-ish people like myself. Haha.

Bride seats are a bit on the widthy side for me. But then again... you gotta sit in all of them to like the one you want. Can't be too brand specific. Lol

This isn't a reflection on you at all Giccin, but I read that as "no giants or fat people"... Which basically characterizes most Americans.

Seats are easy enough to replace that I'm not too worried about it. But they would have to be pretty horrible seats to make me want to swap them out before they wear out.

bc_106 09-20-2011 05:01 AM

If they do offer a seating option it will most likely be a recaro option, given that i haven't seen any manufacturer offer any other branded seats.

Here in Australia recaro seats are offered in the current Renault Megane RS, Renault Clio, Golf R and previous generations of the integra type R. I'd expect the FT86 to be competing in the same market segment so it would be a good option to have for the car.

Heres a picture of the awesome recaro seats found in the current megane.
http://www2.diariomotor.com/imagenes...ne_RS_2010.jpg

old greg 09-20-2011 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberFormula (Post 60692)
I can hardly find any steering wheeel that looks good. Usually only Sparco or Momo is talked about. Anything else?

:offtopic:

looking for something like the
http://www.sparcousa.com/psteering_comp.asp?id=281

but with a Steering wheel guide at the 12'o clock

OMP makes really nice stuff, easily as good as Sparco and better than MOMO imho (I've used steering wheels from all three companies.)

This one seems to be what you're looking for:
http://new.ompamerica.com/product_in...roducts_id=414

That is, assuming you want a 330mm wheel (like the Sparco you linked to). Size is way more important than looks in a steering wheel, so put some real thought into it before you buy.

madfast 09-20-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bc_106 (Post 60712)
If they do offer a seating option it will most likely be a recaro option, given that i haven't seen any manufacturer offer any other branded seats.

Here in Australia recaro seats are offered in the current Renault Megane RS, Renault Clio, Golf R and previous generations of the integra type R. I'd expect the FT86 to be competing in the same market segment so it would be a good option to have for the car.

Heres a picture of the awesome recaro seats found in the current megane.
http://www2.diariomotor.com/imagenes...ne_RS_2010.jpg

optional seats like those never make it to the states because we require side airbags. the megane seats above has them. but the recaros on the Golf R do not and so we wont get them here in the states.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploa...-edition-3.jpg

Giccin 09-20-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 60706)
This isn't a reflection on you at all Giccin, but I read that as "no giants or fat people"... Which basically characterizes most Americans.

Seats are easy enough to replace that I'm not too worried about it. But they would have to be pretty horrible seats to make me want to swap them out before they wear out.


:P T'was a joke. Was meant as a giant sarcasm post. Then again.. writing and reading sarcasm on forums is rather difficult.. maybe not the writing but reading... lol

But stating that racing/bucket seats is cheaper when its an option... I find that.. quite skeptical. Normally when seeing options for cars the prices are really jacked up.

Aki 09-20-2011 02:16 PM

Some OEM seats are Recaro even if they're not branded as such. That said, I don't think brand matters if it's OEM. Regardless of where it's coming from, OEM seats are typically held to a much higher safety standard than aftermarket. Watching ballin' JDM Bride seats fail a rear impact 80 km test shows just that.

In short, I don't care what the OEM brand is, so long as it offers plenty of lateral support, is light, and isn't made for big fat Americans =P

If it does come with Recaros, all I ask is for SP-Xs, haha. Such purty seats. May be a tad overbudget though.

http://www.outofaces.com/wp-content/...car-seat-2.jpg

Not all Brides are wide too. The Brides in the stock R32 GT-R are perfect for smaller Japanese peeps like myself =D

pastuch 09-20-2011 07:02 PM

I trust SUbaru will put good seats in it. I had WRX STI seats in my 94 Wrx (Right-hand-drive) and they were terrific.

Dave-ROR 09-20-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 60639)
I assume they mean something like the Genesis R-spec.

A barebones car that lacks certain luxuries (like AC) to save weight and still has some other upgrades like beefier brakes and stiffer suspension

A race base, at least in Honda terms, would be a car with no interior really, a lot of the upgrade parts removed (as they'd be replaced anyways in a race car), etc.

Here's pics of an ITR race base as an example of what he's talking about: http://www.japanvehicles.com/newcars...aRacerpics.htm

Dave-ROR 09-20-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 60641)
Because being a top of the line brand, there is a reputation for comfort and support which we won't have to worry about with generic brands. Not to mention the added aroma of sitting in a seat that has proven itself in many racing applications. Basically, it's for those of us who don't want to swap seats in the future, OEM quality FTMFW. It's one less thing to worry about replacing.

I'd be down for that option. Especially considering it's going to be cheaper than going for the aftermarket equivalent (toyota will buy in bulk)

I'm really hoping for a nice track edition, with BBK, Recaros, lightweight alloys, sticky thread, aggressive exhaust, and sport-tuned suspension.

Depends on your needs. No OEM seat would be ideal with a rollbar for example, and no non-fixed back seats should ever be used with harnesses and no rollbar.. so basically all you get is a more snug fitting seat that still uses 3 point belts.. and it will still be large enough for big drivers. Not to mention lots of people swap seats in street cars just to do so.

Also, there are very few nice reclinable seats with airbags and crap. OEM seats are perfectly fine quality wise, hell my OEM seats are in better shape than the Sparco and Recaro race buckets I've used!

Dave-ROR 09-20-2011 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 60681)
It's like saying why buy volks when you can buy rotas.

Not really. And just because Recaro makes the seat (or doesn't) doesn't mean it's going to be anything like a race bucket.

Every brand has different levels of seats (quality, material, weight, fit, etc).

I've sat in some nice OEM Recaro's though, and some I hated. :shrug:

Allch Chcar 09-20-2011 07:50 PM

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RX-8 R3 recaros for comparison.
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I don't know how they compare. But I do know that RX-8 seats rate above average. :thumbsup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 60742)
:P T'was a joke. Was meant as a giant sarcasm post. Then again.. writing and reading sarcasm on forums is rather difficult.. maybe not the writing but reading... lol

But stating that racing/bucket seats is cheaper when its an option... I find that.. quite skeptical. Normally when seeing options for cars the prices are really jacked up.

I know right? :bellyroll:

And it is cheaper for an OEM to offer a decent seat from the factory instead of needing to buy one for a brand new car from the aftermarket and probably getting a lower grade seat. Seats are one of those things that you don't want to cheap out on. They need to be sturdy in a crash and cheap aftermarket seats won't work.

I think if you're a Giant meatbag (as opposed to a small one) you probably need to buy a different seat that is more comfortable for you anyway :iono:. The best us giant folk can hope is for two sizes, instead of seats with more range of adjustability which would therefore be heavier and more expensive.


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