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factory Turbo BRZ?
Has there been any word on Subaru making a turbo version of this car for the US?
i now it was mentioned that the FRS would get a turbo version but not for the US. It makes sense since the Scion brand wouldn't allow for a $30k pricing but for the Subaru it would make sense. any word on this? |
They already have the engine with the turbo being used in the Japanese Legacy GT DIT. It puts out 296hp @5600rpm and 295lb ft torque @2000-4800rpm. All they need to do now is make it fit, maybe a taller hood or one with a bump.
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wont happen.
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A BRZ with a factory turbo is probably going to sell for $35k or more. It's cheaper to go aftermarket and get a higher quality turbo
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If I'm already buying the car from the manufacturer itself, then I might as well trust them with their OEM turbo version of the car... If one does come to existence. Cost is very important, but peace of mind is of more value for me. Some folks will have their preference to modify with an aftermarket option... Whereas others will depend on the factory to release their very own version. Just my opinion. :) |
If subaru makes turbo version, it would definitely have different engine internals. It wont just be a turbo kit. Everything else needs to change it order to fit a turbo in this car. 35k sounds reasonable for a turbo'd brz
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I talked to the lead Scion guy for the FR-S a few months ago at a private marketing event and asked him if there was going to be a turbo version. His exact quote was "No, we are going to let the aftermarket blow up our engines. There will not be a factory turbo version."
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Subaru has always kept their lips tight about future projects, this is no different.And they would be marketing geniuses if they told you when the turbo model was arriving. (aka Don't buy this model now and upgrade later, just wait a couple years.) Demand=Production and I doubt Subaru wants to miss out. |
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... For the time being. :D ---------------------------------------- By the way, Inside Line says this for the future of the BRZ: "2013 Subaru BRZ: Don't expect any significant changes or additions to the BRZ for at least at year, but we've got good money on a turbo version (STI?) showing up inside of two years. It would, after all, be stupid to ignore the obvious goodness of such a car." And this for the FR-S: "2014 Scion FR-S: Although nothing has been confirmed, Scion is expected to introduce a turbocharged version of the FR-S by 2013. Toyota engineers have confirmed that the guts of the current drivetrain are capable of withstanding the additional stresses of a more powerful engine and there's plenty of room under the hood to add a little hardware." Still, nothing's set in stone, I suppose... I hope for the best within these twins though! |
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Not going to happen.
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I take nothing serious from the engineering and development rumors spawned from Scion. whether it be opinions or reps. Turbo or not turbo. Any mechanical changes warranted to the Zx6 platform will be decisions from Subaru and Toyota Japan, particularly Mr. Yoda, Mr. Tada, Mr. Mori, and Mr. Tachimori. The real figure heads behind the twins. I only trust words from their mouths in regards to future plans. |
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And that's if and when they ever do it. This car is already in WRX territory (price-wise) without a turbo. |
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The marketing Guy's job is to market cars currently available. If he gave info on a "better" model to come then he wouldn't be doing his job. Who knows?! ?!?!
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Keep dreaming...
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Personally, I want to believe all the hype about the purity of the NA driving experience.
Since nobody asked, my dream for an STI version would be a flat 6 with a rear mounted transaxle. Not exactly a parts bin car I know, but it would keep with the ideas of NA purity and driving balance, but it would also make the "MOAR POWA!!!" people happy. |
If Scion comes out with a TRD supercharger or something, would they install them on a BRZ with a warranty?
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^^ Highly doubtful ^^
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Both chief engineers from Toyota and Subaru say it's not gonna happen and so does the president of STI, all on the record. Will probably get the same treatment as the Forester STI and Legacy STI (JDM-only, no huge power upgrades). That type of thunder is going to the next WRX STI and Supra successor. A few months ago a Subaru marketing rep did say they're working on a "faster version." The current STI concept certainly falls into that category with bigger brakes/tires, improved suspension, carbon fiber hood/roof, etc. "Faster" does not necessarily mean more hp, especially to the Japanese. Many parts are already available. The editor who published that story threw in a 250hp figure which led people to believe it will have increased displacement. From that, a whole discussion thread ensued with many posters confusing his words to be a truth straight from Subaru when they were, in fact, just the editor's opinion. Pfft. |
Probably somewhere along the lines with nsx-r, spirit r, spec-c. Just pure handling upgrade
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Also those JDM F&L STIs are both boosted (though not to say STI=Turbo) |
If they were going to release one, wouldn't they want to wait a few years anyways? If they do it now all those brand new BRZ/FR-S' are going to end up as used car inventory on lots everywhere.
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If there ever will be one, they'll probably release it when people are starrting to run out of warranty time on their BRZ/FRS. So they'll trade in the old one and get a new :)
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If they release a turbo too soon they're going to have a lot of pissed off current owners. That's not good for business.
They'll likely wait at least 3 years if they do come out with a high power version so that the average 20% down 3 year loan guys can sell their current cars and get into a turbo without taking a huge hit on their loans. At least, that'd be my guess. Nathan |
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