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drifter 09-21-2012 02:37 PM

Turbo hp vs. equivalent stock hp
 
Would there be a difference? Another words, if a simple turbo was added and produces 50 or 60 more hp, and, let's say the 2014 model BRZ/FRS stays non-turbo but adds 50 or 60 more hp. Would that mean they would perform the same in all aspects, i.e. 0-60, 1/4 mi? durabuility, safety?

Reason I ask is for the possiblity of me, and perhaps others, upgrading to next years model and maintain a 3 year warranty with no worries driving is CA.

thanks in advance...I've already learned so much from everyone here.

empower-auto 09-21-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by drifter (Post 453274)
Would there be a difference? Another words, if a simple turbo was added and produces 50 or 60 more hp, and, let's say the 2014 model BRZ/FRS stays non-turbo but adds 50 or 60 more hp. Would that mean they would perform the same in all aspects, i.e. 0-60, 1/4 mi? durabuility, safety?

Reason I ask is for the possiblity of me, and perhaps others, upgrading to next years model and maintain a 3 year warranty with no worries driving is CA.

thanks in advance...I've already learned so much from everyone here.

Do you understand the undertaking in which adding 50 or 60 hp to an NA 2.0L 4-cylinder engine is?

Superhatch 09-21-2012 02:48 PM

The short answer is no. The torque differences would make them act differently under acceleration. If you could somehow squeeze out 50-60 more hp from the BRZ and still stay in NA trim the cost of that car would be significantly higher than the 2013 model...likely it would be called the STI.

I would expect to see -maybe- single digit HP gains, if any at all, in the 2014 model, and I'm not expecting an STI until...2015.

drifter 09-21-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 453289)
Do you understand the undertaking in which adding 50 or 60 hp to an NA 2.0L 4-cylinder engine is?

no, but based on your question, I imagine it would be quite difficult

empower-auto 09-21-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drifter (Post 453334)
no, but based on your question, I imagine it would be quite difficult

Well, with complete after-market intake/exhaust and ECU tuning we've still barely been able to scratch 200whp - so it's definitely a huge undertaking especially considering the car from the factory will have to be quiet, have a conventional air-box, and meet emissions laws.

GingerExtract 09-21-2012 03:16 PM

Torque curve. Most turbo cars can produce a nice flat curve while NA 4-bangers tend to have an ascension curve. Assuming they both had the "same" horsepower, generally speaking, the turbo car would accelerate faster.

drifter 09-22-2012 03:38 AM

Thanks, this is good info, makes me feel more comfortable considering a turbo


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