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ahausheer 09-20-2012 05:09 PM

Where does all the rear weight come from?
 
This car has a pretty good weight distribution, as we all know. But when I picture things in my head I see an engine and a transmission with their weight almost completely supported by the front suspension. In the back is the diff and fuel tank (not so heavy). How does this car achieve a near 50 50 weight distribution with almost all of the heavy stuff at or in front of the front wheels? Where does the weight supported by the rear suspension come from?

Carban 09-20-2012 05:52 PM

well, first of all, the engine and tranny sit VERY low and VERY far back. Then u have the big driveshaft coming from the tranny to ur LSD diff, rear axles, then finally gas tank, spare tire (and tools), rear seats, muffler, etc.
The center of gravity on this car is a few inches behind the shift knob.

Laika 09-20-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Carban (Post 451676)
The center of gravity on this car is a few inches behind the shift knob.


I guess this could be calculated pretty easily but do you have a source for this? Not doubting it, just curious.

Also, the fuel tank might not be that heavy but I believe the weight distribution is listed as being a wet weight (with fluids). 13 gallons of gas at 6 pounds/gallon = 88 pounds or about 7% of the rear weight.

SkAsphalt 09-20-2012 06:06 PM

There is a lot more "body" and "structure" to the rear I would argue. cabin, trunk, crash protection for the passengers, etc

Carban 09-20-2012 06:13 PM

@Laika, saw a diagram on some website. been searching for it but cant find it anywhere. it was legit. ill keep searching for it and post up when i find

SUB-FT86 09-20-2012 06:16 PM

Its not nowhere near 50/50. It is 55/45 with nobody in the car.

ML 09-20-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 451730)
Its not nowhere near 50/50. It is 55/45 with nobody in the car.

I heard from multiple sources that it was 53/47

Shagaliscious 09-20-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 451730)
Its not nowhere near 50/50. It is 55/45 with nobody in the car.

BRZ is 55/45. FR-S is 53/47.

ahausheer 09-20-2012 07:34 PM

It just seems that the motor and tranny are the vast majority of the weight. From a mass perspective there just seems to be a lot less stuff in the rear. How much does a drive shaft and diff weigh compared to an engine block and tranny? The weight distribution is just hard for me to visualize.

russv 09-20-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 451837)
BRZ is 55/45. FR-S is 53/47.

Why the difference between the 2 cars?

fatoni 09-20-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 451837)
BRZ is 55/45. FR-S is 53/47.

that strikes me as odd since the brz should have more amenities in the cabin. ive heard that the cars were 53/47 with people in the car and 55/45 without. was that what you were thinking of? otherwise, youre talking about a 50 lb shift in nearly identical cars

CBR600RR 09-20-2012 08:37 PM

50L of fuel is in the back too. That's over 100 pounds.

ahausheer 09-20-2012 08:49 PM

Thats BS, few will have people in the back, a spare tire, and a full tank of fuel when things get twisty. Ill bet these cars are more like 60/40 real world.

roddy 09-20-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by russv (Post 451899)
Why the difference between the 2 cars?

Big 'ol nasty mustache...


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