FRS/BRZ vs. Audi S4
 

Balanced, light weight, agile, cornering machine vs. Pig fat, euro trash, tree wrapper with poor handling

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"superior german engineering"

iShaveWithKatana, here's your reality check, deal with it. I could care less.

i like the 86 waaay better dont get me wrong but i dunno if the audi can be considered a poor handling car with all the tech advances it has and quattro. idk

Four things.
1. Don't feed the trolls.
2. How much less could you care? (it's couldn't ;))
3. That's not an S4. It's an RS6 Avant, which is an even bigger step up.
4. The driver walked away from that crash.

i wonder if the frs is fast enough to cut itself in half like that

:lol: even worst then

I test drove a new 2013 Audi S4 yesterday. They are very comfortable, easy to drive cars. But their drivetrain layout is pretty much ideal for a road car that's driven on snow or loose surfaces. Like a Subaru, they use a longitudinal all wheel drive layout with equal length driveshafts. The difference is that they use a V6 engine up front, have an optional dual clutch transmission, an active center differential, and helical/torsen front and rear differentials with the option for an active rear diff like the Evo X.

The problem is that the car as a whole weighs too much and it's tuned for comfort rather than response/performance. So, with that said, if they made an affordable (less than $50k), smaller sports car like the BRZ/FR-S with a V6 engine, dual clutch transmission, longitudinal all wheel drive, multi-link front and rear suspension, and optional active controls, they'd have a winner!

Oh boy, where to begin? ...actually no. I'm going to lock this thread.

Having constructive debate about FRS/BRZ vs other cars are fine... but I don't think this thread is one of em