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KaliKev 09-08-2011 09:09 PM

Lets talk weight
 
I think people have been guessing much larger figures than what this car will actually be.

This is the Miata vs MKII

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8...ft86_miata.jpg

Now the MKII is 166.7 inches, and we know the production BRZ will be 165 inches, so even closer to the Miata.

According to wikipedia, the MX-5 weighs 2,410 lbs. Since is it a convertible can we not assume there has been weight added for frame reinforcements?

Why can this car not be under 2600lbs?

Slide 09-08-2011 09:20 PM

It can but everyone doubts it.

Would be great if it was less then that.

Neutral_Eyes 09-08-2011 09:51 PM

When you design a car as a convertible, you don't have to fatten it up with frame reinforcements (from removing a roof).

I'm all for low weight, but if it has to be fat I hope it feels light on its feet.

ryude 09-08-2011 10:11 PM

Convertibles DO require frame reinforcements, and typically they weigh 200 lbs more than non-convertibles. Also, isn't this car gonna have seats in the back right? About 100 lbs extra right there. Depending on the type of suspension, it will weigh more. I remember seeing double wishbone. Double wishbone weighs a good bit compared to other suspensions, but improves handling by a lot.

Slide 09-08-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryude (Post 58748)
Convertibles DO require frame reinforcements, and typically they weigh 200 lbs more than non-convertibles. Also, isn't this car gonna have seats in the back right? About 100 lbs extra right there. Depending on the type of suspension, it will weigh more. I remember seeing double wishbone. Double wishbone weighs a good bit compared to other suspensions, but improves handling by a lot.

What he said is all true.

Neutral_Eyes 09-08-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryude (Post 58748)
Convertibles DO require frame reinforcements, and typically they weigh 200 lbs more than non-convertibles. Also, isn't this car gonna have seats in the back right? About 100 lbs extra right there. Depending on the type of suspension, it will weigh more. I remember seeing double wishbone. Double wishbone weighs a good bit compared to other suspensions, but improves handling by a lot.

If it's just a small 2+2 pseudo seat, it's probably nowhere near 100 lbs. But they should be easily removed for a slight weight cut. It'll have MacStruts in the front and double wishbones in the rear.

ryude 09-08-2011 11:11 PM

If I had to really guess, I'd say MAX weight will be 2700 lbs. There is just no reason it should weigh more than that.

sfwg 09-08-2011 11:15 PM

may PLASTIC saturn ion weighs 2700lbs so it needs to be equal or lighter than that for me to buy it.

Random_Art 09-08-2011 11:50 PM

Since i've said it already. I'll just link
http://ft86club.com/forums/showpost....9&postcount=57

Allch Chcar 09-09-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 58767)
Since i've said it already. I'll just link
http://ft86club.com/forums/showpost....9&postcount=57

When did you become such a smartass? :bellyroll: I kid I kid.

The Celica has nothing in common with the FR-S/BRZ.

I just know that the 2012 Impreza is 2950lbs and the Coupe is going to be lighter. Dunno what else to say :iono:.

Mr.Jay 09-09-2011 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfwg (Post 58761)
may PLASTIC saturn ion weighs 2700lbs so it needs to be equal or lighter than that for me to buy it.


I think it will be lighter than 2700 but im confused you say plastic like its steel or something :iono: Id expect a plastic car to weight like 1800

fatoni 09-09-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryude (Post 58748)
Convertibles DO require frame reinforcements, and typically they weigh 200 lbs more than non-convertibles. Also, isn't this car gonna have seats in the back right? About 100 lbs extra right there. Depending on the type of suspension, it will weigh more. I remember seeing double wishbone. Double wishbone weighs a good bit compared to other suspensions, but improves handling by a lot.

that only makes sense if you make a car and then turn it into a convertible. mazda is and has always been very concerned about weight and i dont think toyota will be able to close in on that the first run through.

aside from that i bet toyota sticks some huge wheels on the thing too. its not going to be under 2600lbs and the current miata weighs more than the 24xx mentioned earlier

VenomRush 09-09-2011 02:22 AM

ima take a guess and say this is the 4th? thread about the weight

iff2mastamatt 09-09-2011 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 58784)
ima take a guess and say this is the 4th? thread about the weight

Isn't speculation great?


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