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vh_supra26 09-17-2012 04:11 PM

Lexus LF-CC debuts at Paris Motor Show. Borrows styling cues from Scion FR-S?
 
Does anyone else here thinks the new LF-CC looks a little FR-Sish?

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draggin_az 09-17-2012 04:15 PM

wonder what sticker price will be?

JoeBoxer 09-17-2012 04:16 PM

hybrid = no thanks

probably a coupe version of the next IS which has been on the market since around 2006 and is past due for a makeover.

wbradley 09-17-2012 04:18 PM

I wonder if the COG is similar.

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 04:19 PM

If you look at the overall shape, roof-line, and windows of both cars they look very similar.

Spartan65 09-17-2012 04:36 PM

Yes if it has this motor count me in. I would pay 35k to 42k for it with the 8 speed AT tranny too. I would take it as a NA motor all day. And even as a straight coupe. Let the day dreams begin.
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From Motor Trend Unlike other Lexus hybrids, the body design doesn't aim to make explicit the hybrid powertrain or fuel-economy potential. "We used to show the cars were hybrid, but now this is more emotional and sporty," says Lexus Design group manager Takeshi Tanabe. The long nose will also house gasoline engines, which at present consist of a version of the naturally aspirated 2.5-liter four (IS 250), 3.5-liter V-6 (IS 350), and the 5.0-liter V-8 in the IS F in the U.S. This would be the first IS hybrid.
Tanabe explains, "In the past, Lexus was about reliability, quality, comfort, and silence. We still have that, but we are adding emotion through the design to attract younger buyers. From now, from the new GS and this CC Concept, we're adding excitement."
Read more:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...#ixzz26l3ofIYQ

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 04:47 PM

Lexus LF-CC Concept: First Look
 
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Looks like: A luxurious version of the Scion FR-S/Toyota GT-86
Defining characteristics: Rear-wheel drive, full-hybrid, midsize coupe
Ridiculous features: The gaping spindle grille; whatever happened to front bumpers?
Chances of being mass-produced: 100%, Lexus is working on a midsize sports coupe

In a bid to bring a bit more fun to the Lexus lineup, Toyota's luxury brand will debut a new entry-level luxury coupe in the coming years. Today, we get a first glimpse of what that midsize coupe and other future Lexus models will look like via the Lexus LF-CC. Details about the brand's all-new hybrid powertrain also were released.

The LF-CC is essentially a more practical version of the LF-LC concept. The LF-CC is smaller than the last concept and designed around an actual future Lexus platform that'll be used on midsize entry-level models. In addition, the concept is theoretically powered by a real hybrid powertrain.

The model features an updated interpretation of Lexus's "L-finesse" design aesthetic, which we've seen on the LF-LC and LF-Gh. You really need to look at the headlights up close to see the amount of ornate detail in the forward illumination system. There are three lamps for each headlight and all are housed in independent LED modules. There's no conventional housing cover, which gives the concept a bug-eyed look. I guess it's a great accompaniment for the spindle grille.

Right below the headlights are daytime running lights that seamlessly integrate into the top of the front fenders. Speaking of the spindle grille — a design first worn by the 2013 Lexus GS and then the refreshed 2013 Lexus RX — this one is the most ambitious application yet. As far as we can tell, the front bumper lacks a center reinforcement. Even with lax front bumper regulations, this bumper is probably unacceptable for a production model. Expect it to be tamed down a bit.

The rear taillamp housings resemble webbing and a shark antenna that also doubles as a center rear stop lamp. It's very gnarly. While the front and rear of the LF-CC are unique, the side profile and upper rear-deck smack of Scion FR-S/Toyota GT-86. If Lexus didn't explicitly state that this model was much larger than the Scion, we'd think it was a heavily reworked variant. The derivative side profile is probably just a case of aerodynamics trumping design or maybe Toyota's designers got lazy.

Lexus says the interior features a new aesthetic that will slowly make its way to future models. It'll feature a cacophony of displays, multimedia controls and a driver-oriented cockpit area. No interior photos were provided, however.

The LF-CC features an all-new hybrid powertrain, according to the carmaker. It's a 2.5-liter inline-four-cylinder with direct injection that was built specifically for hybrid use. The engine is mated to a high-output, water-cooled electric motor.

We'll have more photos and information about the Lexus LF-CC concept once the 2012 Paris Motor Show gets underway later in September.
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...22798%3A423059

Silverdub 09-17-2012 04:51 PM

isf motor in there, impressive, but the car will be off balance guarantee, car looks good tho!

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 04:53 PM

Lexus LF-CC Concept to Debut in Paris
 
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In just a few weeks, Lexus will be introducing a new concept vehicle called the Lexus LF-CC. LF stands for Lexus Future, but the CC part could easily stand for Concept Coupe. Lexus is continuously moving forward with leading hybrid technology and edgy styling thanks to the addition of the signature spindle grille. Perhaps this concept could be the long awaited SC replacement we've all been longing for?

This two door coupe concept will feature some interesting attributes. First of all its a coupe, FINALLY! It is uncertain if this is a midsize or D Segment coupe as the Lexus Press Release mentions both. Second it is rear wheel drive and lastly it will feature a new high efficiency 2.5L Atkinson Cycle 4 cylinder hybrid motor. With the launch of the LF-LC coupe in Detroit earlier this year and a second coupe concept following it a la LF-CC, we have a strong feeling that a true Lexus coupe will finally satisfy what was lost since the first generation SC 300 & 400.

Although no other official details have surfaced, Lexus will have their press conference at the 2012 Paris Motor Show at 8.45 AM CET on September 27, 2012. The world will be watching!
http://www.clublexus.com/articles/ne...t-in-paris.php

whaap 09-17-2012 05:20 PM

The FR-S looks to me like it was designed by the same team that designed the $375,000.00 LFA.

Turbowned 09-17-2012 06:38 PM

I hope they find a way to make it prettier before it makes production!

Jordo! 09-17-2012 06:45 PM

That is clearly the same chassis.

fatoni 09-17-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverdub (Post 445577)
isf motor in there, impressive, but the car will be off balance guarantee, car looks good tho!

how much heavier is the isf motor over the frs motor? i imagine it wouldnt be too big a deal. its not like the frs had a good weight balance to begin with. add in the fact that the car overall is gaining weight and maybe even hybrid batteries and i wouldnt be surprised if it has the same if not better weight distribution front to back

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 06:59 PM

Its been confirmed, the LF-CC is a preview of the 2014 Lexus IS and not a Lexus version of the FR-S.

http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...#ixzz26l3ofIYQ

enjoi23 09-17-2012 07:11 PM

Sorry guys but this shouldn't be a big surprise,i mean doesn't Toyota own Lexus?

LivingLegend 09-17-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 445768)
I hope they find a way to make it prettier before it makes production!


Dont know why they have a chain link fence for the front of the car.

mashal 09-17-2012 07:20 PM

You compare that to the frs? Even the production frs is better looking than that


I-Tapatalk

Chicago 09-17-2012 07:20 PM

Exciting times for scion/toyota/lexus fans. Read the GS F, Supra and LFA 2 are on the way too

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mashal (Post 445848)
You compare that to the frs? Even the production frs is better looking than that


I-Tapatalk

Was comparing the roof line, windows and overall shape. They're very similar on both cars.

SuperDave 09-17-2012 07:23 PM

BUT ITS MADE BY SUBARU! (TROLLING)

sorry guys, couldn't help myself!

Guff 09-17-2012 07:24 PM

Looks like IS + FRS + BMW 1 Series to me...


I hope they make it look a little better, and make sure that whatever motors they put in it have excellent Yamaha harmonics...

dem00n 09-17-2012 07:26 PM

Interested in performance figures...

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 07:29 PM

I hope they release a fix hardtop IS-F coupe this time around.

JoeBoxer 09-17-2012 07:43 PM

Don't expect this to come with any decent performance for under $40k, i can't stand the "spindle" grille myself.

Xenocide117 09-17-2012 07:45 PM

Sports car shape is sports car shape. It just looks like an IS to me.

vh_supra26 09-17-2012 07:46 PM

I don't mind the spindle grille. I think it transfer better onto the production cars like with the new GS, ES, RX, LX, and LS.

blacknbean 09-17-2012 08:58 PM

dat grill

itsfun 09-17-2012 09:50 PM

What an ugly car. I'm buying a BRZ because it's one of the few modern good looking and affordable cars out there. Lets get back to stylish and not outlandish cars. That front end looks like a F1 car smashed into a chain-link fence.

Hawaiian 09-17-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LivingLegend (Post 445836)
Dont know why they have a chain link fence for the front of the car.

To keep those darn kids out of your yard!

track_warrior 09-17-2012 10:31 PM

I just hope they dont stuff one of their hybrid power trains on there!! YUK

czar07 09-18-2012 01:48 AM

Whys there so much hate for hyrbid? Lexus makes the BEST hybrid system in the market with a marked improvement in PERFORMANCE and economy.

I will also guarantee that it wont look ANYTHING like that when its released.

Guff 09-18-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 446552)
Whys there so much hate for hyrbid? Lexus makes the BEST hybrid system in the market with a marked improvement in PERFORMANCE and economy.

I will also guarantee that it wont look ANYTHING like that when its released.

Because weight? :iono:

Just looking at the next car up, the GS. The regular petrol model weighs 3800lbs, whereas the hybrid model weighs 4200lbs...


Obviously, the IS version wouldn't add as much, but even 200 lbs is too much to tack onto a performance car. Although, I guess it woun't be much of a performance car...

czar07 09-18-2012 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 446593)
Because weight? :iono:

Just looking at the next car up, the GS. The regular petrol model weighs 3800lbs, whereas the hybrid model weighs 4200lbs...


Obviously, the IS version wouldn't add as much, but even 200 lbs is too much to tack onto a performance car. Although, I guess it woun't be much of a performance car...

I think 400lbs for the hybrid system sounds a bit ridiculous...

how much does an ISF weigh?

Guff 09-18-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 446595)
I think 400lbs for the hybrid system sounds a bit ridiculous...

how much does an ISF weigh?

I'm just pulling numbers from Lexus...


IS250 AT is 3435, IS350 AT is 3527, and ISF is 3780. So, perhaps the Hybrid model would weigh as much as the F-Sport V8 Model (assuming there is one), which I guess is alright... :thumbsup:

Sasquachulator 09-18-2012 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Xenocide117 (Post 445892)
Sports car shape is sports car shape. It just looks like an IS to me.

Bump for truth.

Im awaiting the new IS. That just means the older ones will be cheaper and more affordable :D

Sasquachulator 09-18-2012 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 445894)
I don't mind the spindle grille. I think it transfer better onto the production cars like with the new GS, ES, RX, LX, and LS.

They basically put a black (or body colored) bar separating the bottom and top of the grille and you have what the production one looks like!

vh_supra26 09-18-2012 10:44 AM

LF-CC VS LF-LC
 
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Apex Chase 09-18-2012 10:46 AM

I see more BMW that FRS in it.

madfast 09-18-2012 02:14 PM

the most exciting part about all of this is the news of a "new" 2.5L I4 with D4-S. there have been talks about a 4 cyl turbo from toyota for some time now, so this may be it.

madfast 09-18-2012 02:19 PM

LF-CC vs 2014 IS spy pics

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