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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 447964)

I think its been confirmed, the 2014 Lexus IS will be built on a shorten version of the 2013 GS chassis. Just like the current model.

IS off the GS...Gotcha...but what about the LF?

Hate how the new Lexus front end looks..

Looks like they tried very hard to make it not look the same as the FRS. I don't really like it but maybe the production model will be better.

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase (Post 446948)

I see more BMW that FRS in it.

Mos-def! Side view is simply BMW. In the same way that the latest Hyundai Sonata(?) 'borrows/steals' design cues from late-model Mercedes.

Eric G

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Originally Posted by ESC POD (Post 448135)

IS off the GS...Gotcha...but what about the LF?

There is no LF......

Only CT (I think its based off prius platform but im not sure.
IS (Shortened GS platform)
GS (New chassis with the 2013 redesign)
LS (Might be a stretched GS platform...not actually sure)
ES (Stretched camry platform, aka Avalon platform)
RX (SUV based on Camry platform)
GX (Lexus 4runner)
LS (Lexus Land Cruiser)

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 445856)

Was comparing the roof line, windows and overall shape. They're very similar on both cars.

The roofline and overall shape is pretty much EVERY 2 door coupe out there with variations in its slope and curvature.....

The windowline is similar, but that same look is found on the LS rear door window, just not as sharp and pointy.

The entirety of Lexus design language, LFA excluded, has done nothing more than feed the overwhelming desire to vomit across the world. Should they continue this trend, the sheer volume of simultaneous vomiting will flood the continents with disease and kill everyone from associated illness.

Yes Lexus, your designs are going to kill us all.

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Originally Posted by ESC POD (Post 448135)

IS off the GS...Gotcha...but what about the LF?

LF what? The LF-CC is said to be a preview of the next gen IS. So that equals shorten GS chassis.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/w...2014-is-01.jpg

Are you talking about the LF-LC? (red car)

The LF-LC is rumored to built on the next gen LS chassis and will use the same hybrid drivetrain as the LS 600h. The final price is expected to be anywhere from $120k to $150k and will take on cars like the BMW i8, new Acura NSX, and ect.

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/4...oncept-004.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 449922)

LS (Might be a stretched GS platform...not actually sure)

Currently, the LS is built on its own chassis and does not share it platform with any other car from either the Lexus or Toyota line up.

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Originally Posted by mkiisupra (Post 449711)

Mos-def! Side view is simply BMW. In the same way that the latest Hyundai Sonata(?) 'borrows/steals' design cues from late-model Mercedes.

Eric G

I think the new Sonata is a rip off of the Solara.

http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00312087_m.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00298208_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00312096_m.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/m...00298189_m.jpg

Speculating on the New Lexus LF-CC Hybrid Engine

http://cdn.thelexusenthusiast.com/im...r-cylinder.jpg

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One of the more mysterious elements about the Lexus LF-CC is the 2.5L hybrid engine under the hood — the Paris press release reveals little:

[The new engine will be] appropriate to a sporting, D-segment coupe and low CO2 emissions, targeted below 100 g/km. This powertrain will achieve class-leading energy efficiency, with more than 2 hp produced per gram of CO2.

It adopts the Atkinson cycle and D-4S direct injection technology to optimise both the power and fuel-efficiency benefits of Lexus Hybrid Drive

Using these vague facts, My.IS administrator jruhi4 did some calculating (emphasis is mine):

The current port injection-only 2AR-FXE [engine from the ES 300h] is already producing the 200 total system horsepower…with D4-S injection boosting horsepower by just over 10% in the dual-injected 2GR-FSE 3.5-liter V6 versus its port injection-only 2GR-FE sibling, we suspect that total system horsepower for the new 2AR-FXE with D4S 2.5-liter 4-cylinder hybrid engine should be around 220-225 hp, a notion seconded by Lexus Enthusiast commentator MT.

When it was announced in June that a low-displacement hybrid powertrain for the GS would debut in Paris, I had assumed it would be a direct transplant of the 2.5L four-cylinder engine from the ES 300h — by adding D4S technology, this “new” hybrid engine gets a welcome boost that should push it past the 204-horsepower V6 engine in the current IS 250.

(While on the topic, I have to recommend the My.IS analysis of the LF-CC — very insightful.)

http://lexusenthusiast.com/