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czar07 09-11-2012 02:14 AM

Recommendation for Mild audio upgrade
 
Hi guys, getting really annoyed of the stock audio setup. Looking for a mild upgrade possibly swap out all front speakers, chuck in an amp and eventually grab a 2-din touchscreen.

What do you recommend for:

Dash speakers, size, brand
Door speakers, size, brand
Wiring, can I run new wiring to the dash? I havent taken off the covers to check yet.
Anything else I need to know? I wanna get a slim sub a bit later too, but that will be on a monoblock.

NOTE: I want good quality clear sound. doesnt need to be 1203130123 watt system, but clean clear solid sound.

any guidance would be great

Mo707 09-11-2012 02:24 AM

+1
Wondering the same thing.
And if this will fit in the FR-S?
http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?mo...hId=126&page=1

Calum 09-11-2012 06:44 AM

Any answer you get to most of this will be followed by another saying the one before it is wrong and then another saying both of those are wrong. And all of them will be right.

I'll try to answer the objective stuff. The door speakers are 6.75 and there's enough depth there that you don't have to worry about so long as you use a spacer. From what I've heard you can use up a full inch of spacer. I've used .75 myself and would agree that 1.0 should work.

The dash is not very deep and there doesn't seem to be any kits that would directly swap in to those. So a set of components and some home made tweeter mounts is probably the best your gonna do, unless you either make your own crossovers or run active crossovers.

Yes you can run wiring.

F1point4 09-11-2012 07:44 AM

Perhaps some sound deadening/dampening is in order. It is the foundation of any great sounding system

2forme 09-11-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 433457)
Any answer you get to most of this will be followed by another saying the one before it is wrong and then another saying both of those are wrong. And all of them will be right.

I'll try to answer the objective stuff. The door speakers are 6.75 and there's enough depth there that you don't have to worry about so long as you use a spacer. From what I've heard you can use up a full inch of spacer. I've used .75 myself and would agree that 1.0 should work.

The dash is not very deep and there doesn't seem to be any kits that would directly swap in to those. So a set of components and some home made tweeter mounts is probably the best your gonna do, unless you either make your own crossovers or run active crossovers.

Yes you can run wiring.

My Hertz HSK 163 3-way components fit perfectly in all of the stock speaker locations.....

czar07 09-11-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 433457)
Any answer you get to most of this will be followed by another saying the one before it is wrong and then another saying both of those are wrong. And all of them will be right.

I'll try to answer the objective stuff. The door speakers are 6.75 and there's enough depth there that you don't have to worry about so long as you use a spacer. From what I've heard you can use up a full inch of spacer. I've used .75 myself and would agree that 1.0 should work.

The dash is not very deep and there doesn't seem to be any kits that would directly swap in to those. So a set of components and some home made tweeter mounts is probably the best your gonna do, unless you either make your own crossovers or run active crossovers.

Yes you can run wiring.

Thanks. How do I run the wiring in the dash?

Amalgamo 09-11-2012 10:17 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15565
hope this helps

Calum 09-11-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 433586)
Thanks. How do I run the wiring in the dash?

Um, don't take this the wrong way, but with great effort and care. You'll have to open things up and try. Taking an interior apart is normally very easy, the twins fall under the norm.

michaelahess 09-11-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 433586)
Thanks. How do I run the wiring in the dash?

I was going to say "Very Carefully!" beat to it. Actually it's not hard at all, put a flashlight in the foot well's facing up, pop the speaker cover, pull the speakers, and look down. Lots of paths to take.

mashal 09-11-2012 03:16 PM

Focal 165 KR's up front (6.5" on door and 1" tweet on dash ) have spacers for both, pm me if you wanna know who to buy them from.
For backs I have got 4" JL two way speakers , I don't remember the model number off the bat.
10" W6 in the trunk, one alpine PDX 1000 for the amp, one pdx 4 channel for all speakers .
For sound deadening I took samples of the top 5 candidates for me and I left them in the car and they all look like crap all slimy and crap so I won't be doing that.
Deck will say for a few month till kits come along

I won't suggest anything coz like ye first person said everyone will say others are wrong , but that's my set up .. Gives you an idea .

czar07 09-11-2012 11:14 PM

thanks for the assistance guys. I am having trouble finding components for the dash.
Most decent components are 5 or 6.5 inch.

GremlinGSP 09-12-2012 12:38 AM

I just went with infinity kappa components in the doors then infinity kappa 3.5 to replace the other 4 stock speakers. I then took the tweeter from the door component and put it in the dash. I'm running the door components off an amp and the smaller 3.5s off the head unit (avh-4300dvd) I'm running a single kicker l7 in the trunk for bass. I love this system.

I think upgrading the door speakers to components and adding a sub would be the best though. You don't get much out of those little speakers anyway.

czar07 09-12-2012 01:23 AM

How do the Infinity speakers sound? I had a look at them last night, they seem pretty nice

2forme 09-12-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 435043)
thanks for the assistance guys. I am having trouble finding components for the dash.
Most decent components are 5 or 6.5 inch.

You use the 6.5 inch for the door, up to 3 inch mid / 1.25 inch tweeter for the dash.

Razor 09-27-2012 06:52 PM

Which one the two way kappas or the three ways? Also any, name on rhe spacers?

speedracer38 10-04-2012 03:55 AM

I'm getting Focal speakers installed throughout the entire car next week and will let everyone know how the sound is compared to stock.

zohare 10-04-2012 04:41 AM

Honestly I love pioneer stuff. The OEM crap doesn't even count as pioneer. Put 6.5" 2 ways in my miata and It made me rethink even needing a sub. My 2c on brand. Don't know enough about install to help. I normally read read read then wing it. :D seems like lots of good info. I will say though I think sound deadening is a stellar choice. Pita but worth it. Makes the car as a whole feel nicer more quality

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Pablitomarrero 01-21-2014 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GremlinGSP (Post 435208)
I just went with infinity kappa components in the doors then infinity kappa 3.5 to replace the other 4 stock speakers. I then took the tweeter from the door component and put it in the dash. I'm running the door components off an amp and the smaller 3.5s off the head unit (avh-4300dvd) I'm running a single kicker l7 in the trunk for bass. I love this system.

I think upgrading the door speakers to components and adding a sub would be the best though. You don't get much out of those little speakers anyway.

did you have to modify dash to fit these in there? It seems like a very shallow area

mid_life_crisis 01-21-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1point4 (Post 433486)
Perhaps some sound deadening/dampening is in order. It is the foundation of any great sounding system

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 433529)
My Hertz HSK 163 3-way components fit perfectly in all of the stock speaker locations.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablitomarrero (Post 1467223)
did you have to modify dash to fit these in there? It seems like a very shallow area

This is what I did as well. Most of the sound comes from the dash so none of that b.s. about having drivers too far apart to worry about. The bass drivers in the door don't come in until below 500hz. Active crossovers with good adjustability built in so only one amp needed to get you started. No dash mods needed, the speakers just about drop in. You can probably fit your amp where the factory one was.

GremlinGSP 02-06-2014 12:09 AM

Yea I had to hack the front dash a bit to fit. At the time there weren't any mounts so it may be different now.


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