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tranzformer 08-25-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 56442)
I really don't see how that would be confusing at all. It's a cruising gear. Use it when cruising. All other times it's a standard 6 speed gate pattern. Pretty cool, though.


:word: Don't see what the issue is. 7th is for highway cruising and to meet CAFE standards.

ichitaka05 08-26-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 56449)
Next thing you know there will be a 8spd gearbox and all this non-sense.

Well, IS-F is 8sp... but it's paddle shift

Ryephile 08-26-2011 02:55 PM

It's about damn time someone made a 7 speed manual. :clap: Now 3-pedal cars are only 2 speeds behind automatics :mad0260:

With every extra gear, it means you can have a greater ratio spread. This means you can have amazingly short lower gears for maximum acceleration and crazy tall top gears for great efficiency during highway cruising. It also means that people will have to come to grips that traditional manual transmissions aren't sequential, and you don't have to use every gear sequentially. With a 7-speed, I'd expect to use the ratios something like 1-3-5-7 on a normal basis, or 1-2-4-7. I'm sure I'd try 1-7 just for fun. Isn't that what manuals are all about these days; fun?

VenomRush 08-26-2011 03:15 PM

i can see it now, shifting up to 4th gear to go 30 mph to a stop light... haha i dont know

Exage 08-26-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 56548)
i can see it now, shifting up to 4th gear to go 30 mph to a stop light... haha i dont know

I do that on a daily basis... Did it with the 5-speed when/where-ever possible as well. :iono:

fatoni 08-26-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 56543)
It's about damn time someone made a 7 speed manual. :clap: Now 3-pedal cars are only 2 speeds behind automatics :mad0260:

With every extra gear, it means you can have a greater ratio spread. This means you can have amazingly short lower gears for maximum acceleration and crazy tall top gears for great efficiency during highway cruising. It also means that people will have to come to grips that traditional manual transmissions aren't sequential, and you don't have to use every gear sequentially. With a 7-speed, I'd expect to use the ratios something like 1-3-5-7 on a normal basis, or 1-2-4-7. I'm sure I'd try 1-7 just for fun. Isn't that what manuals are all about these days; fun?

amazingly short gears dont equate to maximum acceleration. what it does mean is that you spend more time shifting than accelerating. this is why the wrx accelerates faster to 60 than an sti. im not saying that the wrx is faster but i am saying that extra gears dont mean more performance. also tall top gears dont mean great mileage if they remove the engine from its range of desirable effeciency

madfast 08-26-2011 04:33 PM

7th gear has to be a "super-cruising" gear, like for the autobahn. it also probably has a lock/detent feature like reverse.

ichitaka05 08-26-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by madfast (Post 56556)
7th gear has to be a "super-cruising" gear, like for the autobahn. it also probably has a lock/detent feature like reverse.

That's all depends on gear ratio & final they put it. If they want, they can make that 7th gear use for 60mph... which I highly doubt, but just saying

madfast 08-26-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 56558)
That's all depends on gear ratio & final they put it. If they want, they can make that 7th gear use for 60mph... which I highly doubt, but just saying

of course anything is possible, but realistically its done for fuel economy ONLY. also it would make no sense to force the driver to change gears so often.

cyde01 08-26-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 56483)
:word: Don't see what the issue is. 7th is for highway cruising and to meet CAFE standards.

have you ever driven an H pattern stick with more than 5 gears? and i mean hard in the corners with a lot of downshifting and up shifting between 3-4-5?

ichitaka05 08-26-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 56568)
have you ever driven an H pattern stick with more than 5 gears? and i mean hard in the corners with a lot of downshifting and up shifting between 3-4-5?

LOL I know what you mean. Sometimes, I miss-shift when I track w my friend's S2k... or maybe I'm just not used to his S2k? IDK :)

Neutral_Eyes 08-26-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 56568)
have you ever driven an H pattern stick with more than 5 gears? and i mean hard in the corners with a lot of downshifting and up shifting between 3-4-5?

I think those issues would be more pronounced in a FR car, especially with less than ideal soft mounts. Maybe the same holds true for the Porsche, but it seems like it'd be less of an issue. I haven't driven a Porsche, or any other RR car for that matter, so I'm not sure.

cyde01 08-26-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 56597)
LOL I know what you mean. Sometimes, I miss-shift when I track w my friend's S2k... or maybe I'm just not used to his S2k? IDK :)

Yeah I wud misshift too before i got used to it. Anything more than seven and i dont see how u wud avoid misshifts. Oh and theres no point in having a taller extra overdrive gear so having more gears means closer spaced 2-5 with overdrive 6 and 7

fatoni 08-26-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 56601)
I think those issues would be more pronounced in a FR car, especially with less than ideal soft mounts. Maybe the same holds true for the Porsche, but it seems like it'd be less of an issue. I haven't driven a Porsche, or any other RR car for that matter, so I'm not sure.

why would those issues be more pronounced in a fr? i feel like having the shifter actually attatched to the transmission would reduce some of the issues a vague linkage would cause


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