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LexusFman 08-18-2011 09:16 AM

Is toyota coming back?
 
I remember back in 2005, that's when they killed off anything remotely sporty. They killed the Celica and the MR2, leaving us with the Corolla XRS, then in 2010 they killed that off as well. The Corolla/Camry got worse in that time, and all Toyota cared about was selling more prii to people who wanna seem Eco friendly and drive 10 mph slower than everyone else...yeah I hate hybrids. Roadmaps looked bleak. Every now and then Toyota would tease us with concept cars but not put out...then the Is-F came, followed shortly by the LF-A and the FT86. At first I was like meh another concept but then more and more came out about this car and it gave me hope that the Toyota I used to know from the 90's isn't completely dead due to peak oil and money hungry shareholders. Is the Toyota we know and love coming back or is Toyota just trying to keep us happy during the endless waves of crap overpriced hybrids that are going to be put out by car manufacturers so people can seem cool. Lets face it if your a car lover and under the age of 18 now your future looks dim. I truly hope I die before 2070. I don't want to see what cars look like then. FML

Type[R]+ 08-18-2011 09:32 AM

Yes, we are on the tip of the iceberg regarding hybrids.
I guess diesel is the next big thing for your country though.

chulooz 08-18-2011 09:37 AM

Honestly I wont know how to answer this question until the production version is released and we have the information on which companies contributed what. For now I should assume a fair 50-50, so they presumably are making half a come back, haha. Time will tell.

Type[R]+ 08-18-2011 09:44 AM

Don't worry about Toyota being the boring one, Honda has gone soft as well. Their biggest thing now is the cr-z. Say no more....

Neutral_Eyes 08-18-2011 09:47 AM

Blame eco-bandwagon jumpers.

SUB-FT86 08-18-2011 09:48 AM

Too early to tell. I want them to build a RWD sports car from the FR-S platform that's a couple inches bigger(Not bigger than a GC but close) with the V6 from the IS350

LexusFman 08-18-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 55181)
Blame hippies.

Hippies aren't the problem. True hippies (atleast the ones I know) hate hybrids because the processes involved with making the batteries are so damaging to the environment. The people who buy hybrids are eco-bandwaggon jumpers who wanna have their eco-swagg. Real environmentalists hate these people because they undermine environmentalism and when the next big thing corporate america wants to rape comes along people will forget about their prius. What we need is a renewable fuel source that doesn't eat into our food supply that is capable of fueling the world, not shoving hybrids down everyones throats. I mean who LIKES hybrids anyway?

Neutral_Eyes 08-18-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 55182)
Too early to tell. I want them to build a RWD sports car from the FR-S platform that's a couple inches bigger(Not bigger than a GC but close) with the V6 from the IS350

Lotus Evora?

Random_Art 08-18-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusFman (Post 55184)
Hippies aren't the problem. True hippies (atleast the ones I know) hate hybrids because the processes involved with making the batteries are so damaging to the environment. The people who buy hybrids are eco-bandwaggon jumpers who wanna have their eco-swagg. Real environmentalists hate these people because they undermine environmentalism and when the next big thing corporate america wants to rape comes along people will forget about their prius. What we need is a renewable fuel source that doesn't eat into our food supply that is capable of fueling the world, not shoving hybrids down everyones throats. I mean who LIKES hybrids anyway?

I'm all for running cars off hydrogen. And the processes for getting it out of the water keep getting better and better.

Dave-ROR 08-18-2011 11:38 AM

2005? They died in after 1995 IMO.

SUB-FT86 08-18-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 55185)
Lotus Evora?

:word: I love that car!!!!!

Maxim 08-18-2011 01:19 PM

Every generation thinks that the end is nigh in terms of exciting automotive products and every generation is wrong.

However, the automotive market is cyclic....for a long time american made vehicles were king, popular, everybody loved them....then imports took over in the late 60's to the 2000's, and now american vehicles are coming back. It's just one of those strange cyclic patterns that happens with people.

Apart from the occasional awesome car (hoping that the FT-86 is one but not convinced) I don't think Toyota is going to come back for a good long while. The quality is slipping, the styling is going down the drain, and cost cutting in the name of greater market share has reduced quality and competitiveness. (that's why things cycle....you can't stay on top forever)

Things will get worse before they get better.

And for those people who think that hybrids and fuel economy spell the doom of exciting cars: look around. There's more exciting cars now than at any time in automotive history. Hybrids and diesels aren't going to change that. Either is engine downsizing.

kuruma 08-18-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 55196)
2005? They died in after 1995 IMO.


Supra wasn't a fun car to you? That didnt stop production for years after, even if it was only 3 years in the US and 7 in other countries.

SUB-FT86 08-18-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kuruma (Post 55222)
Supra wasn't a fun car to you? That didnt stop production for years after, even if it was only 3 years in the US and 7 in other countries.

Some people might not like the Supra because of its weight/size, but I love it. There are folks who thinks that 3000+ lbs spells terrible performer(Handling).


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