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karma003 09-05-2012 07:52 AM

XXR 527_ Good or bad wheels for autocross
 
As the title says. Sorry didn't know what subject it should be in, but figured since it was more directed to the autocrossing group, id post here. I love the xxr527's but I was curious how they r performance wise. What r the pros & cons of it. Plz explain w as much detail as possible plz. Thank you

whitefrs 09-05-2012 09:31 AM

You pay for what you get...
I would trust them on track or auto-x but i want a set for DD lol

karma003 09-05-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by whitefrs (Post 422657)
You pay for what you get...
I would trust them on track or auto-x but i want a set for DD lol

I want them cuz they r beautiful wheels on this car, so yea they'd be for both DD & auto x. Butim worried about the performance aspect of these wheels. As far as weight goes. Know what I mean? Forgot to mention I WANTER 18's

celica73 09-05-2012 10:27 AM

They are a standard overweight cast wheel. Probably made in the same factory as hundreds of other wheels (find the same design in a different brand, and they will likely be the same wheel with a different logo).

I'm sure they are fine for autocross and a track day or two. As soon as you get a competitive streak, you will want lighter wheels.

karma003 09-05-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by celica73 (Post 422739)
They are a standard overweight cast wheel. Probably made in the same factory as hundreds of other wheels (find the same design in a different brand, and they will likely be the same wheel with a different logo).

I'm sure they are fine for autocross and a track day or two. As soon as you get a competitive streak, you will want lighter wheels.

:thumbdown: that's what I mean. I'd hate to spend money just to have pretty wheels but that hold me back. Idk. Anyone have any idea what the same design, lighter wheel is?

QuikJ 09-05-2012 10:51 AM

Ideally, you'd want to stick with 17's for autocrossing, not to ruin the gearing and more added weight.

celica73 09-05-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by karma003 (Post 422747)
:thumbdown: that's what I mean. I'd hate to spend money just to have pretty wheels but that hold me back. Idk. Anyone have any idea what the same design, lighter wheel is?

What size?

The Kosei K4R is a 10 spoke and is quite light. OZ has some options, but they cost a lot. In the end, you want three things

Strong, light and cheap.

Pick TWO.

jschendel 09-05-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karma003 (Post 422747)
:thumbdown: that's what I mean. I'd hate to spend money just to have pretty wheels but that hold me back. Idk. Anyone have any idea what the same design, lighter wheel is?


Looks sorta similar to the Volk G12's :D (10 spoke instead of the Volk's 12) but of course they will cost you an arm and a leg.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5024/...c5e2858c17.jpg

karma003 09-05-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jschendel (Post 423102)
Looks sorta similar to the Volk G12's :D (10 spoke instead of the Volk's 12) but of course they will cost you an arm and a leg.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5024/...c5e2858c17.jpg

Yea no thanx lol. It goes from 600 for 4 to about 3k for 4 lol

_hollywood 09-05-2012 04:36 PM

Strenth is fine, alot of drift teams use them, but remember adding rotating weight is very noticable, so you have to decide between looks and performance...or just pay 4k for volks lol

Future 09-05-2012 04:49 PM

The only thing i absolutely hate about 527s is the dual bolt pattern (10 holes)... I've seen a set fail close to the hub, but pretty much any wheel would have broken in the same condition...

On my part, i did hit a 2 1/2 inch high concrete patch on the track at about 75mph with my wheels (Phat Fux ... similar to 527s) and absolutely nothing happened, i was sure i broke the wheel in half lol.

random hero 09-05-2012 05:22 PM

Just my 2 cents.... If your not a high level driver on the track or auto-x, these will serve you just fine, can't really beat them for the price... People get so caught up on weight, and rotational mass, when reality is 95% of us on this forum will never push the car to the limit of needing $4000 lightweight wheels, or will ever feel the "ill" affects of a wheel that weighs 19.5 pounds, compared to a 17.5 pound wheel...

Think about it, spend the $550 on the wheels, and use the $3000+ you saved on safety equipment, proper suspension, most importantly.... TRACK TIME!!! You could do trackdays every other weekend for the entire year with the savings.

The same people who are caught up about weight, are likely the same people who don't track their cars.... they buy the $4000 wheels because the car won't see the track, or so they can tell everyone their car has "sick rims that weigh 14 pounds"... It's hype at your level of driving. Looks at the track builds on this forum.... Most guys that actually use the cars on track are running Rota (the same wheels w/different name as XXR), or other cheaper/heavier wheels. You're going to damage wheels on track, you're going to change tires very often, and your new to closed course driving... the smartest route, get inexpensive, strong wheels and save your $$ for other aspects that are much more important!!!!

I personally own the 527's, the have a dual ring on the lip that appears to add some serious strength to the exposed area of these rims, I never noticed it in photos... They look great on the car, don't let anyone tell you their not "safe" or "good" for auto-x or trackdays, total bs.

edit: and as mentioned above, you're better off sticking w/17" rim, the wheels/tires are cheaper, and more options for good sticky tires, and R compound tires that won't cost an arm-n-leg

KAR 09-05-2012 05:22 PM

I track my legacy wagon all the time on Xxr wheels, no problem what so ever, I've noticed that their newer wheels such as the 527 are lighter that their older wheels..
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1346876421.jpg

bugeye_fever 09-05-2012 05:23 PM

Hello, I don't know your skill level or goals, but you may just pick a wheel you like for the street, and keep your stockers for the track. Save the money and spend it on seat time. I expect that the majority on the forum, myself included, would benefit more from a good school than lighter wheels.

Drive fast and people will give you wheels! Haha

Edit: Or.. all that stuff random said a minute earlier, lol


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