I'm not looking to infringe on his, their, whomever patents. I would think that a reasonable license fee for an install would be something that could be done. The worse thing I see today is that you can buy a universal kit for $1995 and you have a license and sell the stuff on Ebay. If it becomes an issue I'll take it off, or become a dealer for them, buy a license, Whatever. makes them happy. It's funny that I was looking and thinking about rear turbos before I even knew STS existed. Also they do not make a kit for the FRS or BRZ so I kind of beat them to the punch.

Please post your thoughts. I know you won't have numbers, but anything would be great. BTW nice job! Unless Toyota comes out with a TRD SC, my FR-S will not see any major mods like this till the warranty is up.

Unfortunately, there’s no generic answer to your situation because you do not know (1) exactly what’s patented, and (2) if your system infringes on what “they” patented.

This whole discussion about licensing and infringement is somewhat premature. If you’re really interested in pursuing your system, it might be worth spending several hundred dollars for a patent infringement analysis or a patent analysis to determine if your system falls within the claimed invention.

For all you know, your system might be infringing on someone else’s patent or merely improving what’s in the public domain.

For example,

publicDomain has A, B
firstCompany patents A, B, C
secondCompany patents A, B, C, D
thirdCompaany patents A, B, D, F
yourCompany patents A, B, G

secondCompany needs a license from firstCompany to practice A, B, C, D
thirdCompaany needs a license from secondCompany to practice A, B, D, F
yourCompany does not need a license to practice A, B, G

I highly doubt placing turbos in the rear section of a vehicle was invented less than 20 years ago! If you do not want to get expert help, dig up their granted family of patents that relates to what you’re doing and flip to the “claims” section to see EXACTLY what they have patents on but I would advise you to seek expert help so that you won’t be bamboozled into getting a license you do not need.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying....That's got STS from Utah "written" all over it.

well done

After looking at pix on Google that's a yes and a no. There major claim is oil to and from, which is there big advertised claim. I don't use oil, I'm water cooled. Don@accelerated is remote also and using there oil to and from setup so who the heck knows. I'm not against buying a license but I'm not infringing on the oil patent even remotely just the remote mount maybe. I didn't know about STS until after so it definitely is not deliberate on my part. I just thought it up. Oh well it is what it is. I'm having fun and it works awesome.
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Can't wait to see some videos!

How is this being fueled?

It looks terrific! If it has any of the gains you are further along than most, under hood temps are lower, an intercooler in the nose with a tune and you may have found "the golden bee bee".

I have experience with GM products and STS systems, I will never conventionally mount a turbo again.

Also, have you checked fuel temperature? How close is that turbine to the tank?

Can we assume there is a wastegate somewhere back there?

The turbo is nowhere near the fuel tanks. The fuel tanks also have a heat shield and the exhaust is rapped.

Waste gate is internal, the BOV is back there too.

It says "Have fun, hurt none".

EDIT: Saw someone beat me to it. That'll teach me to post without reading the whole thread.:slap: