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EZWood 08-29-2012 02:13 AM

Tundra brakes on frs?
 
I was driving through the Toyota dealer the other day and couldn't help but to find myself staring at the calipers on a toyota tundra wondering if they could be retrofitted to an frs somehow to increase the braking force without having to pay trd $10,000 for their big brake kit.

BigJyoungblood 08-29-2012 02:20 AM

It would be expensive if not possible at all and heavier than you would want, lots of other better options out there and i bet as more of these twins are released more of these types of parts will be available.

BlaineWasHere 08-29-2012 02:48 AM

Normally I don't just run around the internet calling other peoples ideas "bad ideas"


BUT



This is a really bad idea.

pyro530 08-29-2012 02:56 AM

I think your better off trying to find brakes from an STi, it would be much easier to get them installed.

JoeBoxer 08-29-2012 03:09 AM

Yeah Subaru stuff would be easier to retrofit, hell the stock calipers say subaru on them.

Vracer111 08-29-2012 03:48 AM

Tundra brakes? You know how much unsprung weight that would add?!?! If you want a serious upgrade, a real upgrade, then consider these:

http://www.essexpartsblog.com/news/E...em-Development

Nafe 08-29-2012 06:05 AM

As said above the STI brakes would be a much better option.
Or brakes from a Liberty GT. Smaller than STI, but larger than stock, and more wheel options :)

Captain Snooze 08-29-2012 06:44 AM

From http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ght=brakes+sti
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 184242)
Here's the problem, as has been explained on here many times already.
STI calipers are differential-bored. So the leading pistons are larger than the trailing pistons. When mounting on an STI, which has them mounted rearward of the axle, the leading piston is on the lower end of the caliper, and the bleeder is at the top. When you mount that to a BRZ, which has it's calipers mounted forward of the axleline, you have two options:
1. Keep the left caliper on the left side, and the right on the right.
2. Switch L to R and R to L.
The problem with option one is that the bleeder is at the bottom of the caliper, so you'll never get a good bleed.
The problem with option two is that the leading piston is now the small piston and the trailing is the large piston, so the brakes won't work as well as they should.
For those reasons, a post of "Work? Not really." is accurate. Will they technically work? Sure, will they work correctly or as well as they should? Not at all.
In any case, will they be an improvement on the street in terms of performance, absolutely not.
Feel, modulation, yes, but if you are an ABS braker, it'll stop just the same as stock brakes in the same distance given equal pads.

To the OP. Why do you want to go with re-badged Brembos anyway ? Get Brembo badged Brembos for much less. $3,260 345mm from Tirerack.

Shiny 08-29-2012 07:03 AM

Tundra brake will be too heavy. Plus the tundra has different bolt patron (6 for the tundra and 5 for the 86).

xjohnx 08-29-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 409290)
From http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ght=brakes+sti
"STI calipers are differential-bored. So the leading pistons are larger than the trailing pistons. When mounting on an STI, which has them mounted rearward of the axle, the leading piston is on the lower end of the caliper, and the bleeder is at the top. When you mount that to a BRZ, which has it's calipers mounted forward of the axleline, you have two options:
1. Keep the left caliper on the left side, and the right on the right.
2. Switch L to R and R to L.

The problem with option one is that the bleeder is at the bottom of the caliper, so you'll never get a good bleed.

The problem with option two is that the leading piston is now the small piston and the trailing is the large piston, so the brakes won't work as well as they should.

For those reasons, a post of "Work? Not really." is accurate. Will they technically work? Sure, will they work correctly or as well as they should? Not at all.

Couldn't you go with option 1 and use a reverse bleeding technique such as this:
http://www.moccsplace.com/images/bra...er/bleeder.htm ?

VSGTS14 08-29-2012 10:18 AM

WRX oriented brakes are going to most likely fit. the car uses the same brakes currently found on wrx's. so anything that is made to fit a wrx...should essentially fit the brz/frs...but it's not confirmed.

Captain Snooze 08-29-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSGTS14 (Post 409494)
WRX oriented brakes are going to most likely fit. the car uses the same brakes currently found on wrx's. so anything that is made to fit a wrx...should essentially fit the brz/frs...but it's not confirmed.

What do you base your comments on? Looks like a lot of speculation to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 409480)
Couldn't you go with option 1 and use a reverse bleeding technique such as this:
http://www.moccsplace.com/images/bra...er/bleeder.htm ?

I was just quoting a thread I remember reading. The points raised seem significant. I did not look at the link you supplied because the idea of going to the trouble doesn't interest me when one will be able to buy a sorted kit from Essex Parts with out any fuss when it comes to fitting.

xjohnx 08-29-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 409502)
Did you read what I quoted? It would seem that there are 2 reasons why they would not be a good idea.

No, there are not 2 reasons that the brakes wouldn't be a good idea.

There is one reason that it's not a good idea in the stock configuration (leading/trailing piston), and one reason that it is not a good idea in the inverted configuration (bleeder location.)

If you go with the inverse setup (Left on Right, right on left), then you no longer have the trailing/leading piston problem. You only have the brake bleeder problem, which can be remedied with the link i posted.

Knowing that, I would love to hear your reasoning for why it wouldn't it be a good idea.

Captain Snooze 08-29-2012 10:35 AM

With due respect I was just quoting that link I posted. I am merely repeating information from that thread. Which, to me (not knowing anything about STI brakes) seemed like valid points. Ah... maybe I should have said mutually exclusive points. You can have one of two problems.

I have just read your link. Makes sense. Okies, I am not sure how to amend all my posts to take that into account.


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