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R2RO 08-25-2012 09:15 PM

Injen Short Ram Intake Installed on my 86 :D
 
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Hello everyone, I just recently installed my Injen Short Ram Intake for my 86.
The install was maybe 1 hr and 30 mins long, because we couldnt find some tools haha. Well Let me tell you, this intake makes my Car feel way more powerful. It adds 10+Hp and 7lb torque and deletes the sound tube :D
I got it for $267!!!!! Thats the lowest i ever seen it go for!! and that was with free shipping, If anyone wants to know the vender i will let you know.
Also this Short ram makes the engine sound so much better :party0030:
Here are some photos of it, hope you enjoy!!!

yormaX 08-25-2012 09:18 PM

Make a video of how it sounds.

tnt 08-25-2012 09:34 PM

Very cool

kendalldwhite 08-25-2012 10:07 PM

looks nice

sho220 08-25-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by R2RO (Post 402664)
It adds 12+Hp and 7lb torque

Say what????

jcruise 08-25-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by yormaX (Post 402668)
Make a video of how it sounds.

WOW... video please!

GalaxyBRZ 08-26-2012 03:55 AM

make The viDDeoo already!

Bonburner 08-26-2012 03:59 AM

those numbers don't sound right lol.
regardless congrats, honestly I wish it was more flush with the opening at the front like the stock set up .. of course this probably limits the air flow ..

lbroskee 08-26-2012 04:17 AM

what vendor did u get it from?

R2RO 08-26-2012 04:43 AM

To everyone i will try to make a video tomorrow

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Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 403188)
what vendor did u get it from?

I got it from SDMotorworks, heres a link to there site. http://sdmotorworks.com/
Tell them @Tltc told you about them, thanks.

SuperDave 08-26-2012 04:56 AM

how does it sound better without a sound tube? duh! (trolling)

jstans84 08-26-2012 07:53 AM

Sweet thanks for the info, I've got like 3 weeks before I can start buying any parts but this will probably be one of the first.

FRSowner 08-26-2012 12:02 PM

How do you know what HP + TQ results you have achieved, if any? Did you dyno the car before/after? Are you going off of manufacturer(s) claims?
I would think that if Toyota/Subaru could bump the output that much for so little, they would have done it at the factory level.

I don't mean to be a jerk but whenever I see aftermarket claims like this, I'm highly skeptical, especially when it comes to intake products (K&N, I'm looking at you).

travace 08-26-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 403424)
How do you know what HP + TQ results you have achieved, if any? Did you dyno the car before/after? Are you going off of manufacturer(s) claims?
I would think that if Toyota/Subaru could bump the output that much for so little, they would have done it at the factory level.

I don't mean to be a jerk but whenever I see aftermarket claims like this, I'm highly skeptical, especially when it comes to intake products (K&N, I'm looking at you).

This right here... i would love to see some before and after dyno results

RedLeader 08-26-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSowner (Post 403424)
I would think that if Toyota/Subaru could bump the output that much for so little, they would have done it at the factory level.

There are a lot of reasons why this is not true. Safety, warranty, target market, emissions all keep car companies from extracting every possible ounce of performance from a given car.

That being said, I would like to know how the OP knows exactly what the horsepower and torque change is from this. I hope the numbers are true, that'd be sweet.

Capstan 08-26-2012 03:21 PM

The stock intake already seems very open, I don't see how this one can make that much difference.

*KID* 08-26-2012 04:26 PM

Mine was suppose to have gotten here Friday, but for some reason UPS got lazy and rescheduled for Monday, Ill see how that goes once thats put on.

bimmerboy 08-26-2012 04:54 PM

people need to stop believing vendors claims and do some independent testing..... Regardless, happy you are enjoying your intake.

SkitterSkotter 08-26-2012 05:16 PM

I would guess that this system provides not more than +5hp. Not saying it's bad, but of all restricted areas, the intake on this car isn't bad at all. I would imagine that the different throttle response feel makes the car feel far more powerful than the numbers actually indicate. I would love to see an intake make that much power though, if true I would be happy and pick this one up without hesitation.

R2RO 08-26-2012 06:32 PM

Well i really don't believe the manufactures claims, but im thinking it bumps the Hp up 5-9 hp and 4-7lb of torque. But im going to dyno my car, when i find a dyno shop with the OEM Intake and this injen one.

j.t. 08-26-2012 08:44 PM

Even if you look at the vendors graph you will notice that there is power loss through a large portion of the power band. Then when close to red line it switches over and you gain slightly. So you loose down low and gain a few up top.
Then you also have to deal with throttle lag and bogging when driving at normal speeds.

GodSays 08-26-2012 11:07 PM

Injen dynos with the hood up:thumbdown:

*KID* 08-27-2012 09:11 PM

Got my Injen intake today, and resetted my ECU by disconnecting the neg terminal on my battery. let me just say it takes a couple of minutes to read back the map, and lil by lil it starts feeling a little better, a lil more responsive but not really noticeable. I really do need to dyno a before and after.

But I can say it picks up to the 3 digits a LITTLE quicker.

tnt 08-27-2012 10:51 PM

do I need to do anything to the ECU after installations ?

Nitro 08-27-2012 11:23 PM

The original post sounds like an ad.

ngabdala 08-28-2012 12:15 AM

There's no point in buying an intake without a tune for it.

You can get the same performance by buying an aftermarket air filter and putting it in the stock intake. Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

Buy the tuning kit and wait to see who makes the best intake based on the tuned results. Save your money. Also , do the same with the exhaust and wait. The cost of an intake is 33% the cost of the tuning kit.

I bought the Visconti ECUtek tuning kit and I'm waiting for it to ship.

Flako 08-31-2012 09:23 PM

I just installed my injene air intake but now my check engine light is on and the codes won't erase, they say permanent?

Vukodlac 08-31-2012 09:28 PM

Yep, I couldn't agree more. I'm happy with my K&N Filter for now.

DriftEightSix 08-31-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

It adds 10+Hp and 7lb torque
who cares about a vid for sound i want before and after dyno results.

Symbiont 08-31-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 406563)
There's no point in buying an intake without a tune for it.

You can get the same performance by buying an aftermarket air filter and putting it in the stock intake. Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement.

GenkiElite 08-31-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GodSays (Post 404351)
Injen dynos with the hood up:thumbdown:

Most people do in order to help simulate the cooling effect of driving down the road at X speed as well as having a large fan but usually the fan isn't enough. Why thumbs down?

ngabdala 09-01-2012 01:21 AM

I disagree man. These need a proper tune to harness anything better than the stock intake with an aftermarket high flow filter.

You didn't quote everything I wrote so I wonder whether or not you stopped reading at that point.

The rest of it was this " Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

Buy the tuning kit and wait to see who makes the best intake based on the tuned results. Save your money. Also , do the same with the exhaust and wait. The cost of an intake is 33% the cost of the tuning kit. "

That's why I will be waiting to see the numbers of all the intakes with a proper tune to determine which intake I want.

It's very possible by the time that happens I will be adding a turbo which means the intake was a waste of money as it will have to be removed.

If I stay NA I am waiting it out.

Sorry to tell ya you're not getting the advertised numbers provided for your intake. They will be better down the road when you have the ECUtek Tuning Kit and can get true performance increases from it and an aftermarket exhaust.

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Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 415332)
I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement.


ngabdala 09-01-2012 01:24 AM

Did you re-insert the MAF sensor? If you did you may not have a tight enough fit at the throttle body and/or where the box attaches to the front of the engine bay. Disconnect then re-attach.

Do you have an oiled filter or is it a dry one? An oiled filter could throw a CEL but not always.

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Originally Posted by Flako (Post 415245)
I just installed my injene air intake but now my check engine light is on and the codes won't erase, they say permanent?


Symbiont 09-01-2012 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 415615)
I disagree man. These need a proper tune to harness anything better than the stock intake with an aftermarket high flow filter.

You didn't quote everything I wrote so I wonder whether or not you stopped reading at that point.

The rest of it was this " Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

Buy the tuning kit and wait to see who makes the best intake based on the tuned results. Save your money. Also , do the same with the exhaust and wait. The cost of an intake is 33% the cost of the tuning kit. "

That's why I will be waiting to see the numbers of all the intakes with a proper tune to determine which intake I want.

It's very possible by the time that happens I will be adding a turbo which means the intake was a waste of money as it will have to be removed.

If I stay NA I am waiting it out.

Sorry to tell ya you're not getting the advertised numbers provided for your intake. They will be better down the road when you have the ECUtek Tuning Kit and can get true performance increases from it and an aftermarket exhaust.

I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

sho220 09-01-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 415853)
I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

Ever see this thread? http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ht=filter+test

Sportsguy83 09-01-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 415853)
I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.


While it is true that the current aftermarket intakes are not EXACTLY the same as adding a drop in filter, I clearly see ngabdala's point. Go and look at Injen/Airaid's Dyno sheets. They are very unimpressive in the sense that yes, there are gains at some points in the curve but in a lot of other places the curve even goes below stock!

I am sure those curves would change to be on the positive side with a tune. His point is, a tune would make anyone of the intakes better and that's true. He also points out the best thing to do right now is to wait and see what comes down the road which is another accurate and positive thing to say, no misinformation whatsoever. Also, please take a look at FT-86 thread on drop in filters, they saw a peak 5 HP on practically every drop in filter, that seems like consistent results.

Like you said, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want to their car, but he does make some good points. :thumbsup:

gmookher 09-01-2012 08:40 AM

forget sound

seeing power gains?

I'm convinced the stock air box can flow better with a foam filter like perrin, sio i wanna see real gains before I put down coin, sound is unimpressive

Horsies float my boat tho

ngabdala 09-01-2012 10:09 AM

Inflammatory remark? Only the inflammatory would see an opinion that way.

I was aiming to educate others and in the end it is their choice. I question whether or not you are able to see the positive.

If it's not for you it's not for you. You did write it is a "ridiculous statement." Rather than add fuel to your ignorant and inflammatory statement I replied "I disagree dude."

Take a look inside rather than project your negative qualities on others just to feel good about yourself. It doesn't work.


Anyways, I hope you feel better. Let's just agree to disagree and not derail or lessen the quality of the thread.

Best wishes man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbiont (Post 415853)
I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.


tnt 09-01-2012 02:14 PM

You all have good points ... :thumbsup:

Flako 09-01-2012 10:39 PM

Yea I checked everything the check engine light turned off but its still pulling two codes that say permanent ????? Help?


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