Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 52616)

It sounds like the subaru might get the 2.5l or 2.0l turbo if its going to have 250hp? If so the Subaru is the car to get!!!

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 52614)

SOA Blog said their coupe will be on sale in Spring 2012. I seriously doubt the Scion will be on sale this year considering they are unveiling it in December. Unless they have already started production, or are very close, I don't think we'll be seeing them here until at least Q1 2012. That said, if it is really 250hp in the Subie, I will definitely wait for it. The rest of that article seems like it is purely based on rumors so I wouldn't put much faith in it.

Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 52620)

But side note, how is the FR-S supposed to be released in the same month it's being unveiled:iono:?

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 52618)

I agree. We haven't even seen a production version of any version of this car, so a December 2011 release from Scion is a bit of a stretch of believability.

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa (Post 52833)

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1312158262

I'm also kind of disappointed with what they put as the tq but I guess we'll have to wait for real specs from Toyota.

Originally Posted by MrVito (Post 52630)

I really think the only differences between Subaru/Toyota/Scion will be the same as between the Talon/Eclipse/Laser dsm offerings of the 90's. Slightly different interiors, lightly different sheet metal, but otherwise mechanically identical. Even the 300GT and Stealth fell under the Diamond Star Motors project between Chrysler and Mitsu, and they were mechanically the same as well. It makes sense from a manufacturing standpoint, the unibodies and powertrains are all made in the same factories, the two manufacturers split the costs, and put their respective front ends/rear bumpers and dashboards on the cars. If one gets a higher trim level, they both do, and pricing would be competitive between the two, largely because people don't tend to cross-shop Subaru and Toyota/Scion. Just like people who went into an Chrysler-Jeep-Eagle dealership were not likely to go into a Mitsubishi dealership, due to brand loyalty. Enthusiasts know better, but if both cars are available at the same price, and look basically the same, I would probably buy the Subaru over the Scion, because I prefer dealing with the Subaru dealership in town.

Like was said before, yahoo is just recycling the garbage they heard from autoblog, motortrend, 7tune, etc.