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My Wilwood 4 pot front and 2 pot rear FHI caliper install
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My impressions just after a 40 mile round trip curvy drive after the install, wow what a difference, Steering is just about effortless and handling which was great to begin with on the 86 platform has been transformed into incredible!! Heres the stats from my refrigerant scale... 2.18 lbs savings total on rear FHI 2 Pot aluminum Caliper upgrade and 27.6 lbs on the front. Even with the KNS adapter brackets its still lighter than the stock single piston caliper and bracket.
Front stock 2 pots have 2-40.4 mm pistons. Stock rear caliper has 1-40.4 mm piston, FHI rear 2 pots have 2-38mm pistons. Wilwood 4 pot front calipers have 4- 41.15 mm pistons. Heres a better breakdown.... Total weight reduction 29.78 lbs, lets just call it 30. With Wilwood rotor/hats saving 6.6 lbs unsprung weight per corner=13.2 lbs total(You can certainly feel the weight savings) Wherever you may have heard that the Wilwoods alone are a 32 lbs total weight savings(16lbs per corner) is wrong, unless Wilwood changed the recipe over the years since the kit was first released, it is actually 27.6 lbs total, with 13.2 lbs of that being unsprung weight, maybe they were weighing it just with caliper and rotor only, and not including the hardware and pads, i weighed everything taken off and everything being put back on with the Wilwood kit. Here are some pics of my install if anyone is thinking about this install i say go ahead and do it, i was suppose to do this last year and finally got around this past week to do it. The whole car feels better in every dynamic and acceleration is improved, how much? Its hard to say because the whole unsprung weight to acceleration debate has been beaten to death for 25 yrs or more on online forums, all i can say is it probably is a 1/10th second at best, but the real score here is handling and braking of course. Well if any of you have any more questions please pm me or reply to my post. I want to give a shoutout to Ken from KNS Brakes and a shoutout to Wilwood brakes for this kit, it had a couple of difficulties that i don't prefer, but it is what it is, and so far no issues or strange noises, it works very very well. Thanks!!! |
These use the stock rotors front and rear? Which specific part numbers for the calipers? KNS Brakes don't have these on their site (only AP brakes).
I hope the zipties holding the brake lines are temporary? To your claim about a substantial change in feel, I don't know if you're exaggerating, suffering from placebo/bias or I'm just that insensitive, but when I replaced my wheels with Enkei RPF1s with slightly lighter tires (dropping ~6 lbs per corner) I felt no change in handling (wheels and tires should have an even more pronounced impact due to rotating mass further away from the center of rotation). I won't argue with the theory behind this nor with people claiming to feel the difference, just sharing my experience. |
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Did both these mods many years ago only difference in the rear I used a single vane rotor to save some weight. I got 30lbs total off the front. This is an amazing mod to get slightly better than stock braking and save all that weight up front.
Front https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...1&postcount=57 Rear https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=219 Coincidentally 2 days ago as of this writing I fucked up my brakes and alot of the aluminum stripped. While trying to bleed my rear the bleed screws when fully torqued back wouldnt stop leaking ended up stripping the bolt holes. Took one of the calipers off and during reinstall the mounting bolt started to strip. Upfront on the Wilwoods unscrewed the big bolt vs the tiny one to bleed and ended up snapping off inside. Also inspection most of the pistons the rubber gaskets were all torn up. Frustrated and covered in brake fluid I just decided it was time to go big and ordered reman PP Brembos front and rear and stainless lines. That can all be done for about a $1000. With the money saved buying Gyrodisc 2pc rotors front and rear to save weight again. Total kit front and rear will still be about $3k So sadly saying goodbye to this lightweight kit but will hopefully still be slightly lighter than stock with massive braking improvement as the mercy of lightweight responsive suspension and reciprocating mass. |
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There are many free things to remove but you may sacrifice some level of safety or comfort. Remove front/rear bumper beams, AC Delete, remove injector metal cover, rear seat delete, ect most are listed throughout my build thread. Dry carbon doors, NRG carbon seats were some of my pricier ones but combined removed about 100lbs from the center of the vehicle. If I added back in my AC setup for comfort Id still be around 2425lbs |
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