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CB750F 12-19-2024 12:12 PM

Blackstone oil - copper
 
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I've been checking my oil every yr for a few yrs now & all was good till ....


Anyone see this before? Funny as the last month before I put it away for the winter
I found the engine running so smooth. I hear no strange noises.
Does this look like a new engine or rod bearings(maybe)?
I have 4 months to panic till spring.

Maybe I'll just run it & check the oil next time unless it goes KABOOM! before.
I usually change my oil by July (5000km) but this yr I missed several autoX so I waited
a little longer. I have done some HPDE, not much in the first few yrs, like 2 a yr but
about 10 autoX a yr. Original owner 2015 BRZ 125,000 km(70k miles).
Apart from that, not driven hard.

Ultramaroon 12-19-2024 01:37 PM

If it was mine, I'd change oil, submit a sample immediately after change, and then again after maybe 1000 Km. Describe your plan to Blackstone if you do that.



It's not a good sign but, like the analyst wrote, could go either way. Don't drive it far from home until you know what's up.

Breezio 12-20-2024 01:44 AM

If titanium is only an oil additive, why did it spike? Did you change brand or type of oil on your last change?

CB750F 12-20-2024 04:16 PM

Changing / testing the oil is a good option, see what the results will be.


Not sure what oil I used, could have been Castrol, the others were probably Mobil.

I just buy what's on sale. The first 5 yrs I used 0w20 but now I use 5w30.


I'll be getting the best CAA card next yr... lol

Ultramaroon 12-20-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CB750F (Post 3611186)
Changing / testing the oil is a good option, see what the results will be.


Not sure what oil I used, could have been Castrol, the others were probably Mobil.

I just buy what's on sale. The first 5 yrs I used 0w20 but now I use 5w30.


I'll be getting the best CAA card next yr... lol

It's such a tiny jump that it could've come from a single low-pressure incident. The weird thing is that I'd expect to see other metals jump too. The copper layer is there to hold the even softer layers above. :iono:


A tiny fleck of copper from the funnel you used to fill? Copper anti-seize? Meh...

NoHaveMSG 12-21-2024 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3611189)
It's such a tiny jump that it could've come from a single low-pressure incident. The weird thing is that I'd expect to see other metals jump too. The copper layer is there to hold the even softer layers above. :iono:


A tiny fleck of copper from the funnel you used to fill? Copper anti-seize? Meh...

I’ve had multiple low pressure incidents and none of them showed up on my UOA report.

Been scratching my brain trying to think of what else would show up as copper besides a rod or main and not having any luck. I believe the copper layer is a bit deep in the bearing, I could probably pull one to check later this weekend. Maybe some crank thrust took the edge off a bearing but I don’t see that as much better of a problem.

Ultramaroon 12-21-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3611204)
I’ve had multiple low pressure incidents and none of them showed up on my UOA report.

Been scratching my brain trying to think of what else would show up as copper besides a rod or main and not having any luck. I believe the copper layer is a bit deep in the bearing, I could probably pull one to check later this weekend. Maybe some crank thrust took the edge off a bearing but I don’t see that as much better of a problem.

Yeah, copper is an intermediate layer. But it's the same for thrust bearings. I was reaching. I bet it goes back to normal in the next sample.

CB750F 12-24-2024 06:14 PM

Tks for thinking about this, much appreciated.


1- Form 2 to 21 to me is quite big, but that's why I posted cuz, I have no idea.


Anyway, Ill see in May as the car comes out of hibernation in April & I'll have to do some mileage before sending the oil in.


I don't see any contamination as I use a plastic funnel & I clean before/after I use.


The only thing that was done this yr is my clutch as the TOB was starting to screach. I went to a reputable shop(Subaru shop) to get the work done & since I could be a really paranoid person
& I'll smoke another join... My car has a banner with 'Track & Time' on it so maybe they sprinkled
some extra copper in my engine thinking I check my oil & i would come back to get work done.


Tks God I'm not too paranoid.

Opie 01-01-2025 10:58 AM

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Drive it until there is a problem....why stress over this if you are following proper oil change intervals?

I recently bought an older Subaru from a guy that did religious Blackstone Oil reports with every oil change...he sold it to me dirt cheap because one Blackstone report showed a high level of copper & lead, and he thought he heard a low knocking sound at startup, thought for sure motor was going out.

Noise turned out to be a worn out timing belt tensioner, report difference turned out to be a change only due to using a different motor oil than he had been for that one report. Report I did just to check came back fine....car runs great.

CB750F 01-02-2025 11:33 AM

Thanks for you input Opie. You're probably correct, I'll go back to Mobil for the next few
changes, see what it gives.

CB750F 07-13-2025 05:49 PM

Sent in the oil, should get results this week.
i did 4 autocross before sending oil in, with maybe 2,000 km.
So far at 6 autocross events, drove from Montreal to Quebec city & back.
So far, so good! No KABOOM!!!

CB750F 07-17-2025 09:53 PM

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So, my engine looks good...

smackrel 07-18-2025 12:18 PM

Glad to hear! :happyanim:

@Opie was right, drive until there is a problem :cheers:


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