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blsfrs 02-12-2024 12:07 PM

I want.
 
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blsfrs 02-13-2024 11:42 AM

If these work as well as they say, it would be really cool if they made these as a stock rotor replacement. Cheaper than a bbk.

Spuds 02-13-2024 01:40 PM

I am quite skeptical of these claims in a real world application. It's basically a slotted solid disk with some fins on the inside radius. I think iron is quite thermally conductive, so moving more airflow to the outside surface isn't that important relative to overall airflow across overall surface area. In fact, you would wind up with a cool surface and hot core in this case, which is pretty much the opposite of what you want. There's also packaging issues, like you need a small hub-wheel diameter ratio to make the inner fins and outer waviness big enough to matter, while decreasing available braking surface and caliper clearance.

JD001 02-13-2024 02:11 PM

Mountain bikers already have such stuff...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276186213...2c93d20ee26ca1

SuperSub7 02-13-2024 07:49 PM

That would be quite interesting!

blsfrs 02-13-2024 09:33 PM

Things might already be in the works:



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Might be a good opportunity for Counterspace Garage. (Hint, Hint)

bcj 02-14-2024 11:22 AM

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our in-wheel motor and brake assembly,
Even more unsprung weight?
Did thinking so hard boil their brain pan dry?

Might work fine for sub 15 kph golf carts I suppose.

Dadhawk 02-14-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3601440)
Even more unsprung weight?
Did thinking so hard boil their brain pan dry?

Might work fine for sub 15 kph golf carts I suppose.

I know unsprung weight = bad, but wouldn't this be offset at least somewhat by the weight loss in the body itself?

Spuds 02-15-2024 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3601440)
Even more unsprung weight?
Did thinking so hard boil their brain pan dry?

Might work fine for sub 15 kph golf carts I suppose.

The biggest problem with in hub motors is the lack of isolation from vibrations/bumps/potholes. But yes, not good for performance driving either.

California startup. As long as they can make a nice pitch they can keep investor money rolling in to burn. Doesn't have to match reality, many people with that kind of money don't live in reality anyway.

bcj 02-15-2024 12:15 PM

It's certainly offset by conservation of momentum when the wheel breaks on the trailing edge of the pothole.
It wants to keep going one way as hard as it can even when there's an immovable object in the way.
Hardtail Harley. That sort of thing.

If they were to continue with a hub motor concept, it should be re-gen braking only and shuck the rotor and caliper completely.

Then when a terminal fails somewhere it's momentum all the way, electric steering & etc ...

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