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Qwimby1 01-17-2024 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3600045)
This is a perfect description of an electric supercharger. Like the Phantom or the Torqamp. I tried to find the website for Torqamp to refer you to and can't find it on the internet. I can't believe it disappeared just like the Phantom. both products work perfectly on this platform. Now I understand the irony of the name "Phantom".

I found a TorqAmp site. https://torqamp.com/product/torqamp-kit/
+on your suggestion. My main concern is if this company is going to be around long. A while back they were soliciting for investors.

bcj 01-17-2024 01:59 PM

Not really easy as it looks on Roadkill.

Simple
Indeterminate
Blowed Up

Don't even need to pick one. It's a package deal!

Qwimby1 01-17-2024 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilPenguin04 (Post 3600158)
Guy doesn't sound like he's interested in racing it or driving it hard constantly. As long as common sense is used and he has a good tune it will be fine. If it is a worry still then e85 can help keep it cool.

I ran E85 for a time and it helped, but in my area there's only one place to get it and it wasn't worth the effort.

EvilPenguin04 01-19-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3600254)
I ran E85 for a time and it helped, but in my area there's only one place to get it and it wasn't worth the effort.

I'm spoiled I have 4-5 stations within 15 minutes.

JohnH 01-19-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86 (Post 3600107)
I installed my Harrop without removing my front bumper, although it would have been easier had I had it on a lift for the air-to-water intercooler. If you can replace an intake manifold, you can install a Harrop.

Yep. Once again, I am infinitely capable of whatever install I need to do. I have 2 full sets of tools, access to a fully modern, nearly brand new shop. I am the shop foreman and have been wrenching professionally for nearly 30 years.

I simply don't want to do it.

Saying the other parts are hard to do is just silly. Look at how the electric ones work. People are saying they can install and remove them in less than an hour.

honestly there shouldn't be anything else involved for the basic install of a centrifugal blower put on the front of the engine.

remove intake piping and airbox.

remove drive belt

install SC bracket/SC itself

fit up piping from airbox to SC

Fit up piping from SC to throttle body.

there is tons of room at the front of the engine bay.


As for the turbo kits, I like turbos, and know how to tune with them very well, so it was my first thought. However, Id rather keep the exhaust setup I have. And I can't really see a convenient area to fit a remote mount turbo that wouldn't come with its own problems (heat, space, hanging down too low etc)

JohnH 01-19-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilPenguin04 (Post 3600357)
I'm spoiled I have 4-5 stations within 15 minutes.

yea there is one in my province, and its 2 hrs one way and its not even open that often. eff that

menikmati 01-19-2024 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnH (Post 3600365)
I simply don't want to do it.

Have you considered just paying someone else to do it for you?

JohnH 01-19-2024 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by menikmati (Post 3600368)
Have you considered just paying someone else to do it for you?

no. Not only am I more than capable, I don't really trust anyone else to work on my vehicles. Some warranty stuff, sure, but something like this? nope.

Ultramaroon 01-19-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnH (Post 3600369)
no. Not only am I more than capable, I don't really trust anyone else to work on my vehicles. Some warranty stuff, sure, but something like this? nope.

Time to suck it up, Buttercup. :D

Qwimby1 01-19-2024 04:41 PM

I don't have the facilities or capability to install a belt-driven one, which is one reason I like the ESC. if I had to pay for and install it would add significantly to the cost I also have the option to remove it easily and put it on another car if I choose. My car is a 2014 and I'm not entirely trustful of the strength of that motor, which is why I wanted no more than 5 pounds boost. M Phantom has been working fine for a couple of years and makes a significant difference.

autoracer86 01-19-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3600373)
M Phantom has been working fine for a couple of years and makes a significant difference.

I wanted to see this thing for myself and it seems they might not be around anymore. No clue how up to date this info is so apologizes if it is no longer correct.

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Looking for Phantom Superchargers, we were too. We found out they are no longer around but we have a lot of alternative options to make power reliably and easy to install on your vehicle. Check out our products below.
https://www.delicioustuning.com/scio...ubaru-brz.html

Teseo 01-20-2024 10:27 AM

Torque amp should take the lead on ESC but they doesn't do any marketing or make the product more ready, like doing kits + tune and other miscellaneous

Qwimby1 01-20-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by autoracer86 (Post 3600375)
I wanted to see this thing for myself and it seems they might not be around anymore. No clue how up to date this info is so apologizes if it is no longer correct.


https://www.delicioustuning.com/scio...ubaru-brz.html

You will occasionally see a Phantom show up in the classified section of this forum.
I haven't seen one for quite a while though.

JSIdriver51 01-21-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnH (Post 3600009)
Hi. I'd like to get a simple, basic supercharger for my 2020 BRZ. I don't want to run bigger boost. 4-5 PSI would be plenty. I am not after a "max attack" kinda thing, just something to wake it up, not overpower it.

My problem is that I can't find anything that's not a complicated, expensive kit that takes a long time to install.

Honestly, I'd just want the supercharger, mounting bracket, and a 4-5psi pulley. Not sure if they would need a separate belt or use the stock one. I could get the couplers to the airbox and throttle.

I'm thinking a Rotrex C30-64 would be great. Good flow, and capable of enough for what I want.

I don't want to run an intercooler because at that low pressure its not needed, and the complexity of the install turns me off. Plus the added cost for minimal gain doesn't attract me. If I need to I will run methanol/water injection. From my experience in boosted engines, I won't need it, but I will probably run it down the road anyway for the other benefits it brings.

thoughts?

thanks!


Based on what you want and what you talk about, the Sprintex non-intercooled kit would be the best for you. I thought installing the whole kit was pretty easy considering it’s just me (hardest part was lifting it by myself and lowering it in). Having the barebones kit would mean you essentially disconnect the belt (just a 14mm on the tensioner). Then unplug and take off the TB (leave everything attached hose-wise). Take off the hoses from the manifold and remove the manifold (6 bolts). Then route the extensions from the supercharger (map extension and tb extension) and then just drop in the supercharger manifold (head unit is already on) and bolt it up (there is an extra 32mm bolt that attaches at the front to secure the manifold). Reconnect TB and hoses. Then put belt back on. Super easy and not involved compared to other kits. If you have e85 readily available, it’ll help and you can get a flex kit (another 10-15 min install depending on which kit you get). Then get it tuned via Ecutek and you’re done. It’ll push roughly 9-10 on the stock 75mm pulley and it’ll be fine with proper maintenance; adding the e85 will just increase reliability and power


***forgot, the kit uses a plastic elbow that attaches to the intake. Super simple to take off and on (just four clamps)


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