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Irace86.2.0 09-26-2023 02:11 AM

CA Bill AB-645
 
California Roads Could Soon Have Cameras Issuing Speeding Tickets

A bill moving through the Legislature would allow cameras in six cities to issue automatic fines for vehicles driving at least 11 miles an hour over the limit (***It passed, waiting for Newsom to sign it***).

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/u...d-cameras.html

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202320240AB645

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The bill, A.B. 645, would create a five-year pilot program that would place cameras in six cities — Los Angeles, San Jose, Oakland, Glendale, Long Beach and San Francisco — on streets that are hot spots for street racing, or are in school zones, or have a high number of collisions.

At the outset, vehicle owners would get a warning the first time their vehicles were caught speeding by the cameras. After that, fines would start at $50. The fines could be reduced if the vehicle owner is unable to pay.

“The ticket is nominal, and there’s no points on your license,” said Assemblywoman Laura Friedman, who co-wrote the bill. “We’re out to change behavior. We’re not out to be punitive.”
So this is a pilot program, but it is likely going to progress because of take-overs, street racing, and people being idiots ruining things for everyone else. The car community has been out of control, egged on by social media and the ease of cheap horsepower, so this is no surprise. Police are overwhelmed in my area with complaints of street racing and side shows. Police lack the resources. They get people vandalizing their cars, throwing bottles at them. They now are just taking pictures of cars and license plates and towing cars at these scenes days later from the owner's homes because the scenes are too dangerous.

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 07:00 AM

Unconstitutional.

WolfpackS2k 09-26-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3593473)
So this is a pilot program, but it is likely going to progress because of take-overs, street racing, and people being idiots ruining things for everyone else. The car community has been out of control, egged on by social media and the ease of cheap horsepower, so this is no surprise. Police are overwhelmed in my area with complaints of street racing and side shows. Police lack the resources. They get people vandalizing their cars, throwing bottles at them. They now are just taking pictures of cars and license plates and towing cars at these scenes days later from the owner's homes because the scenes are too dangerous.

This is the idiotic equivalent of when my university, in an equally stupid move, banned kegs at football tailgates after a non-student, high on cocaine, shot someone at a tailgate.

Seems evident that this has nothing to do with speeding, but rather the lack of enforcement power given to the police over the last few years. And Newsom will 100% sign this rights infringing bill.:w00t:

MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires 09-26-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3593479)
Unconstitutional.


conservatives actually go and fucking read the constitution challenge (impossible)

Irace86.2.0 09-26-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3593479)
Unconstitutional.

Everything is unconstitutional if you don't like it.

Irace86.2.0 09-26-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 3593494)
This is the idiotic equivalent of when my university, in an equally stupid move, banned kegs at football tailgates after a non-student, high on cocaine, shot someone at a tailgate.

Seems evident that this has nothing to do with speeding, but rather the lack of enforcement power given to the police over the last few years. And Newsom will 100% sign this rights infringing bill.:w00t:

Was he upset that someone wasn't giving him beer? :cheers:

You must also feel people have a right to drive through a red light at an intersection when they install those pesky intersection cameras. You don't have a right to speed, so how is this infringement?

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 03:04 PM

Defund the police and buy machines instead.

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 03:07 PM

Keep the window licking fucktards in California

WolfpackS2k 09-26-2023 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3593505)
Was he upset that someone wasn't giving him beer? :cheers:

You must also feel people have a right to drive through a red light at an intersection when they install those pesky intersection cameras. You don't have a right to speed, so how is this infringement?

LOL, maybe he was. Also I feel bad about laughing at that. :bonk:

True, no right to speed. Ditto running red lights. But it's not really about catching the violators. The unconstitutional part is lack of due process.

In general though, it's all just an excuse to increase monitoring of the population, which nobody should be in favor of.

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 05:23 PM

Cameras don't show who is driving the car. Unfair burden of proof on the defendant. Already tested in Florida court.

MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires 09-26-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3593522)
Cameras don't show who is driving the car. Unfair burden of proof on the defendant. Already tested in Florida court.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ionel_Hutz.jpg

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires (Post 3593500)
conservatives actually go and fucking read the constitution challenge (impossible)

I will but I'm too busy charging my ev, making a salad and cutting my **** off. Tomorrow I'll go looking for reparations

Irace86.2.0 09-26-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3593506)
Defund the police and buy machines instead.

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3593507)
Keep the window licking fucktards in California

https://media.tenor.com/eCIerL43hCIA...-triggered.gif

Lantanafrs2 09-26-2023 09:47 PM

Not triggered at all, I enjoy this. Some pinhead who lives on Google search pukes out long winded posts and I respond to them. I can do this all day long


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