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LRNAD90 09-13-2023 09:10 AM

If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare
 
https://gizmodo.com/mozilla-new-cars...ort-1850805416

"Mozilla found brands including BMW, Ford, Toyota, Tesla, and Subaru collect data about drivers including race, facial expressions, weight, health information, and where you drive. Some of the cars tested collected data you wouldn’t expect your car to know about, including details about sexual activity, race, and immigration status, according to Mozilla."

"Questions around consent are essentially a joke as well. Subaru, for example, says that by being a passenger in the car, you are considered a “user” who has given the company consent to harvest information about you. Mozilla said a number of car brands say it’s the drivers responsibility to let passengers know about their car’s privacy policies"

Spuds 09-13-2023 10:17 AM

Duh. Also cellphones that you have with you or other people have with them even when you aren't in a car.

soundman98 09-13-2023 08:26 PM

yep. reason #1246 that i bought in '14...

LRNAD90 09-13-2023 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3592468)
yep. reason #1246 that i bought in '14...

Which begs the question, what year did sufficient connectivity become part of the 86 platform? 2017 refresh? 2022 2nd coming, or sooner?

Spuds 09-13-2023 11:03 PM

I got around to reading the articles. It's actually not the cars, its the apps that connects to the car.

LRNAD90 09-13-2023 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3592478)
I got around to reading the articles. It's actually not the cars, its the apps that connects to the car.

Might want to read it again. They draw information from connected devices, but also from in car mics, cameras and other sensors..

"Mozilla found brands including BMW, Ford, Toyota, Tesla, and Subaru collect data about drivers including race, facial expressions, weight, health information, and where you drive. Some of the cars tested collected data you wouldn’t expect your car to know about, including details about sexual activity, race, and immigration status, according to Mozilla."

Spuds 09-13-2023 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LRNAD90 (Post 3592479)
Might want to read it again. They draw information from connected devices, but also from in car mics, cameras and other sensors..

"Mozilla found brands including BMW, Ford, Toyota, Tesla, and Subaru collect data about drivers including race, facial expressions, weight, health information, and where you drive. Some of the cars tested collected data you wouldn’t expect your car to know about, including details about sexual activity, race, and immigration status, according to Mozilla."

I recommend checking out the articles in the privacy not included project. At least for cars that don't have built in data. OnStar for example has it's own connection.

Irace86.2.0 09-14-2023 12:02 PM

Privacy is a joke these days. Good luck trying to live in a faraday cage with a tin foil hat with analog products. They know everything.

RToyo86 09-14-2023 12:29 PM

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Sounds about right.

humfrz 09-14-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3592506)
Privacy is a joke these days. Good luck trying to live in a faraday cage with a tin foil hat with analog products. They know everything.

Back in the day, that would have bothered me. However, today, I don't care who knows how many times I go to the doctors offices, dentist, pharmacy or to Walmart - :iono:

Irace86.2.0 09-14-2023 02:58 PM

Seen the documentary on Cambridge Analytica? Scary stuff. It really shows the power of information and misinformation at controlling people, especially finding the people that are most likely to be controlled and what type of misinformation can be used to manipulate them like what will they fall for. This is big business, especially in the US, and the volume of data that is being captured is exponentially rising.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80117542

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/59533...-2016-election

https://firstsiteguide.com/big-data-stats/
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Dadhawk 09-14-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3592523)

They must be talking about Large dedicated 3rd party Data Centers here. There's no way that there are less than 3,000 corporate data centers in the US.

Lantanafrs2 09-14-2023 04:05 PM

Disinformation is subjective.

Sasquachulator 09-14-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LRNAD90 (Post 3592472)
Which begs the question, what year did sufficient connectivity become part of the 86 platform? 2017 refresh? 2022 2nd coming, or sooner?

2020 is when the N/A models got apple carplay/android auto support.
BRZ might have been a year or 2 earlier.

But that's the extent of connectivity you got with the car.

Audio was only Bluetooth or USB, but those have been around since i think 2014 (in a not-shit implementation)
Older years and other markets would have had a nav system available....but i dont think that really counts as connectivity.

Lets just put it this way. If you can connect to the internet in any way, you are already compromised.


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