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Muskoka800 09-01-2023 05:30 PM

Oil Pan Baffle Plate. Blue Moon, Moroso, Greddy, Other?
 
Leaning toward the Blue Moon baffle plate for my Edelbrocked FA20 which sees weekend cruiser and HPDE/Lapping day duties.
All educated opinions/advice welcome. Thx!
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autoracer86 09-02-2023 12:34 PM

I would be curious to see what others have to say. I just invested in an oil pressure gauge to see if a baffle would even be helpful. I’m probably just being blind but I haven’t seen much about oil pressure drops due to cornering on the fa20. The fa24 is a different story of course ha

Ohio Enthusiast 09-02-2023 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autoracer86 (Post 3591636)
I just invested in an oil pressure gauge to see if a baffle would even be helpful.

Exactly. I agree it's fun throwing go-fast bits on your car, but unless you have data showing a problem (presumably low oil pressure in certain situations) and can verify that the baffle actually helped you might be burning cash for no reason.

Granted, there are some fairly consistent recommended parts for street (camber bolts, better tires) and track (oil cooler (with a minority saying they're not needed)) that I would be comfortable putting on my car (and have in fact done so) solely based on the forums' combined wisdom. AFAIK an oil pan baffle for the FA20 is not a strong recommendation and should be installed only if you actually have a problem.

Muskoka800 09-03-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3591638)
Exactly. I agree it's fun throwing go-fast bits on your car, but unless you have data showing a problem (presumably low oil pressure in certain situations) and can verify that the baffle actually helped you might be burning cash for no reason.

Granted, there are some fairly consistent recommended parts for street (camber bolts, better tires) and track (oil cooler (with a minority saying they're not needed)) that I would be comfortable putting on my car (and have in fact done so) solely based on the forums' combined wisdom. AFAIK an oil pan baffle for the FA20 is not a strong recommendation and should be installed only if you actually have a problem.

I am in the process of adding an oil pressure/temp gauge.
I must soon remove the oil pan to resolve its RTV leak and thought this a good time to slip in a baffle plate. Perhaps, by the sounds of it I should just throw that coin into the track tire kitty.

More input welcome. Keep it coming.

Autoxer62 09-04-2023 06:23 PM

If you're going to put in the baffle, I'd suggest also installing a Killer B pickup (or equivalent). There appear to be two separate issues that require attention, cornering starvation and high rpm pressure drop.

M0nk3y 09-05-2023 10:10 AM

Verus Engineering has put together a preliminary design on the FA24 baffle that utilizes a divider plate with a "flapper" so to speak that will keep oil at the pickup tube during high G load.

They have not considered the FA20 yet but I'd like to poll interest somehow to convince them otherwise.

Muskoka800 09-05-2023 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0nk3y (Post 3591802)
Verus Engineering has put together a preliminary design on the FA24 baffle that utilizes a divider plate with a "flapper" so to speak that will keep oil at the pickup tube during high G load.

They have not considered the FA20 yet but I'd like to poll interest somehow to convince them otherwise.

The Blue Moon plate has flaps.
I thought Killer-B used to make a baffle plate for FA20 however it is no longer visible in there site. I do have their pick-up installed.

RT-BRZ 09-05-2023 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0nk3y (Post 3591802)
Verus Engineering has put together a preliminary design on the FA24 baffle that utilizes a divider plate with a "flapper" so to speak that will keep oil at the pickup tube during high G load.

They have not considered the FA20 yet but I'd like to poll interest somehow to convince them otherwise.

I might be interested in such a thing for my FA20.

M0nk3y 09-05-2023 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskoka800 (Post 3591803)
The Blue Moon plate has flaps.
I thought Killer-B used to make a baffle plate for FA20 however it is no longer visible in there site. I do have their pick-up installed.

Blue Moon is for prevening slosh into the upper pan. Verus IIRC is trying to target left to right slosh

NoHaveMSG 09-05-2023 12:59 PM

I didn't notice much difference with a baffle. Now that being said, I haven't logged my data, just what I have seen on my gauge. My car also threw a rocker arm and exploded spectacularly 2 sessions in so I don't have a lot of data :bonk:

justnutsandbolts 09-07-2023 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0nk3y (Post 3591802)
Verus Engineering has put together a preliminary design on the FA24 baffle that utilizes a divider plate with a "flapper" so to speak that will keep oil at the pickup tube during high G load.

They have not considered the FA20 yet but I'd like to poll interest somehow to convince them otherwise.

Seen these guys do it first.

https://koruworks.com/make-model/toy...xoCZZsQAvD_BwE

M0nk3y 09-07-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by justnutsandbolts (Post 3591979)

Wasn't aware it fit the 1st Gen Pan..I thought initially it was only 2nd Gen fitment

BatStig 01-25-2024 09:06 PM

Going to bump this with thread with my experience after installing a GReddy baffle plate and a Killer B pickup tube.

I was consistently seeing pressure fluctuations on straightaways, the same as @ajc209 reported having with the original Moroso baffle.

This winter I will be removing the baffle plate. I don't want any oiling issues, especially with the extra power coming from the Jackson Racing Supercharger I am about to order, so I am doubtful I will replace it with a differently designed baffle.

Unless someone has one that has proven to be helpful?

jflogerzi 01-25-2024 10:06 PM

it appears a accusup system might be the best fix based gen 2 testing.

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