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FrickingReallySlow 06-18-2023 04:25 PM

Ice box for intercooler charge cooling
 
Just thinking of alternatives for air charge cooling beside chillerkiller

1. Has anyone looked into an ice box to chill our intercooler for FI? since some setups (Edelbrock) already has a water pump for A2W intercooler would it just entail making a larger coolant reservoir to replace the surge tank and dumping ice cubes inside it?

2. Or put the surge tank inside an icebox and load the icebox and drain it every time sort of like a water to water/ice intercooler?

3. if cabin heating isn't a necessity can you route the intercooler lines into the cabin heater core and blast the AC onto the heater core? do the manual knobs on BRZ/FRS allow this?

soundman98 06-18-2023 04:47 PM

4 windshield washer nozzles in front of intercooler to mist water onto it

Breadman 06-18-2023 10:25 PM

I turn my fans on and spray water over it. Drops the oil and coolant temps too

WNDSRFR 06-19-2023 11:35 AM

How about packing your intercooler with dry ice? No watery mess.

Breadman 06-19-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3584535)
How about packing your intercooler with dry ice? No watery mess.


Water has an amazingly high specific heat, and the amount of energy required to boil water.

WNDSRFR 06-19-2023 11:46 AM

OK
How about get rid of the FI completely and use liquid oxygen injection instead?

Surprised this hasn't been thought of before.

FrickingReallySlow 06-19-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Breadman (Post 3584477)
I turn my fans on and spray water over it. Drops the oil and coolant temps too

Would spraying methanol aka windshield wiper fluid work better? since it evaporates fasters and lower boiling point

Breadman 06-19-2023 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow (Post 3584543)
Would spraying methanol aka windshield wiper fluid work better? since it evaporates fasters and lower boiling point




No idea but all the water evaporates really fast with just water.

B T 06-20-2023 09:40 AM

I've been thinking about it for a minute but haven't tested anything yet. Here's what I've got.

Chiller Box
Room is at premium in the engine bay, if you just replaced the stock tank with a chiller box, you'd be sitting right above if not pretty close to where the headers run for heat rising. It would be colder for a while but the increased volume would also keep it from heat soaking as fast.

Heater Core as radiator
This is the option I've been leaning towards as I live in the south, don't need interior heat much, and have an upgraded radiator. You'll lose some coolant system volume, so an upgraded radiator would be required for track days I think. If you run the heater core as the first stop after the supercharger then continue on to the front mount, this would allow the fluid to cool a little bit before reaching the fmic and still allow for some interior heating(if any really). The additional volume would also increase time to heat soak as well as lower heat soak temp.

IC Spray
Always nice to have, but you have to keep refilling the reservoir and you can't use it on a track day. Methanol would work better but I prefer to not spray my engine bay with flammable liquids. The intercooler doesn't get hot enough to evaporate water but air speed could push it through.

Any more ideas? Thought on my thoughts?

Irace86.2.0 06-26-2023 12:33 PM

People also spray NOS! directly onto the intercooler. Something with a faster evaporation rate will feel/be cooler like alcohol does on your skin versus water.

https://www.jegs.com/InstallationIns.../741-16034.pdf

B T 06-26-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3585322)
People also spray NOS! directly onto the intercooler. Something with a faster evaporation rate will feel/be cooler like alcohol does on your skin versus water.


That's a great way to do it, unfortunately not legal to run on a track day. Would be my go to for 1/4 mile though.

Breadman 06-26-2023 08:14 PM

Why would you spend the time and money on nos sprayed intercooler for your boosted fa20 only to have it let go the first time you push the button?

B T 06-29-2023 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Breadman (Post 3585375)
Why would you spend the time and money on nos sprayed intercooler for your boosted fa20 only to have it let go the first time you push the button?

You mean blow the engine? The only thing you would be doing is lowering your IATs, never heard of someone blowing an engine by spraying nitrous on an air to water intercooler. Even if somehow you were able to get it cold enough to freeze, expand and crack the intercooler, the engine would be fine.

Breadman 06-29-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B T (Post 3585612)
You mean blow the engine? The only thing you would be doing is lowering your IATs, never heard of someone blowing an engine by spraying nitrous on an air to water intercooler. Even if somehow you were able to get it cold enough to freeze, expand and crack the intercooler, the engine would be fine.


Turns out I just can't do reading comprehension. I was thinking spraying it in the intercooler. Still seems like a lot of time and money for something that could be done easier and cheaper to get the same results.


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