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Mvhs09 09-07-2022 10:34 AM

Possible boosted 86/Brz
 
The article claims Toyota has been testing an 86 with their GR Corolla/Yaris engine in it. Promising but it's not concrete it'll happen.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...charged-137338


Don't give me hope...

wbradley 09-07-2022 11:01 AM

It they can somehow get it to fit under the low hoodline that would be a hoot.

No doubt they would market it as the pinnacle and expect to pay Yaris GR price if not more.

The weight of that engine, I wonder if it is significantly less than the FA24? Then it could potentially bring the vehicle closer to 50/50 weight f/r although who knows the actual numbers.

Tcoat 09-07-2022 11:12 AM

The article makes it very clear (if not total bullshit to start with) that this is in no way a production concept.
The total lack of any pictures of this alleged engine swap is sort of telling really.

wbradley 09-07-2022 11:24 AM

If the engine can actually fit under the hood then there is hope. I wouldn't expect something like this to be sold to the public ever, considering the assembly is done by Subaru. If crate engines were shipped to produce some special elite model, like the early STI days, it would need to be after discontinuing Supra, considering the package would probably add $10K + to the price tag and for not much more you can get a 4 second car with a 382 HP inline 6.

Tcoat 09-07-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3545800)
If the engine can actually fit under the hood then there is hope. I wouldn't expect something like this to be sold to the public ever, considering the assembly is done by Subaru. If crate engines were shipped to produce some special elite model, like the early STI days, it would need to be after discontinuing Supra, considering the package would probably add $10K + to the price tag and for not much more you can get a 4 second car with a 382 HP inline 6.

The early STi days are long gone. Just shipping engines and doing a company sponsored swap is pretty much impossible these days. As soon as the manufacturer does it they need to meet all the regulations they would if they built it that way to start with.
No doubt they could sell kits if offered but it would be way more than $10K by the time they were done with you.
Wouldn't impact the Supra in the least though.

CincyJohn 09-07-2022 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3545797)
The article makes it very clear (if not total bullshit to start with) that this is in no way a production concept.
The total lack of any pictures of this alleged engine swap is sort of telling really.

Well, I think it is pretty clear that the pictures in the article are simply stock photos of a regular GR86. I don't doubt Toyota has done this, but the cars they have done it to don't look anything like that. I also believe the article and Toyota that there are no concrete plans to do it in a production model.

Possible - yes. Likely - no.

Tcoat 09-07-2022 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyJohn (Post 3545823)
Well, I think it is pretty clear that the pictures in the article are simply stock photos of a regular GR86. I don't doubt Toyota has done this, but the cars they have done it to don't look anything like that. I also believe the article and Toyota that there are no concrete plans to do it in a production model.

Possible - yes. Likely - no.

A couple of one of race cars does not a production car make!
The clickbait sites will have a field day with this and soon it will be said they are headed to dealers and only cost $100 more than the regular production models.

Tcoat 09-07-2022 12:38 PM

Oh and I almost forgot...

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fredzy 09-07-2022 12:44 PM

It could probably fit as-is, and definitely could with a small hood bulge. Yet another functional styling cue!

I think it's promising. I suspect this car was chosen as a test bed not just for the engine/fuels, but for the car+engine as well. It could occupy the same price point as GR Corolla. If it knocked the 2.0 Supra off the menu (I don't see why it would have to) no biggie.

Ghost of Akina 09-07-2022 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3545828)
Oh and I almost forgot...

2

What does the ‘2’ mean?

Ghost of Akina 09-07-2022 12:45 PM

Until Toyota announces anything I would consider it clickbait.

Tcoat 09-07-2022 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3545833)
What does the ‘2’ mean?

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151041

removedonut 09-07-2022 12:48 PM

BMW has multiple M3s with truck beds that they use to haul parts around. This doesn’t mean they’re going to start making a production M3 ute.

fredzy 09-07-2022 12:53 PM

Actually, this is old news. From April

https://toyotatimes.jp/en/report/hpe..._2022/001.html

Quote:

Subaru’s BRZ is equipped with the production model’s 2.4L horizontally opposed engine, while the GR86 sports a 1.4L turbocharged engine based on that of the GR Yaris.

Despite these different engines, both cars use fuels from a European manufacturer that also supplies synthetic fuels for the WRC.
No bulge required. Just an interesting thing.

https://toyotatimes.jp/en/report/upl...nge_2022_2.jpg


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