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DarrenDriven 08-20-2012 03:47 AM

Suspension Review: Eibach Sportline Lowering Springs
 
Today we installed Eibach's newest spring set onto the black FR-S owned by @Zach. The install went smoothly following the Spring Install DIY. @Zach will drive the car a little bit and we will put together a review of the quality, performance and overall impressions of this lowering spring set. Stay tuned!


Eibach Sportline Springs (claimed 1.4" Drop Front & Rear)
Part Number: 4.10582
MSRP: $359



Distance from center of front wheel to fender - FRONT
Stock springs: 14 7/16"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 1/4" drop)

Distance from center of front wheel to fender - REAR
Stock springs: 14 5/8"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 5/16" drop)




http://i.imgur.com/mDlKi.jpg
Springs and assorted goodies that came in the box


http://i.imgur.com/86zR2.jpg
Front springs: stock vs Eibach


http://i.imgur.com/PeuSO.jpg
Rear springs: stock vs Eibach


http://i.imgur.com/si3o3.jpg
Zach's FR-S after the install -- looks much better than stock!

DarrenDriven 08-20-2012 03:47 AM

Posted on page 2...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach (Post 404059)
Sorry for the delay, crazy week and I wanted to get some miles on the car before giving any quick judgement.

As soon as we put the car on the ground I was in love all over again. The drop isn't crazy visually but makes the car look much more purpose built as a "sports car". Spacers will be needed to get everything flush on stock wheels, at least in the rear, but its not terrible. This really is how the car should come stock, at least visually.

After putting about 5k miles on the stock suspension I could feel the difference getting in/out, again nothing crazy but a great reminded that you just lowered your car. My first drive was basically around the block to pick up some burgers for the guys at the shop (thanks again!) On that drive the car felt tighter but if stock was a 6 (arbitrary 1-10 for ride firmness) this was maybe a 7. Really was surprised how little it seemed to change the ride feel. Over the next few days things seemed to firm up a bit but nothing dramatic. Ruts and potholes were never fantastic to hit in the 86 but avoiding them has become more of a priority not for suspension travel but ride comfort. In fact, I have hit some mean bumps and pretty sure bottomed out the rear end travel and It wasn't that harsh at all.

I have not hit a track with the 86 before or after. I can say the car feels MUCH more planted in a street corner now, almost to a fault if you don't want to break the speed limit. On my daily commute there are several open empty corners I get to hit each day and play, the rear end grips the road with much more intent now and I have to be more aggressive to get it out. The car feels even more attached to the road, I have never had the tires chirp going into 3rd gear till now but maybe that could be the stock tires starting to wear.

In my opinion and for my driving abilities (not great) the 86 is quick around a typical road corner, not fast. Its so much fun to "play" that you totally forget about the fast part. You felt fast and certainly had fun but as with most things this starts to get boring, old and habitual. These springs turn the stock suspension up just one more notch and give you a new challenge to learn and grown with while giving the car a much cleaner and aggressive look.
Of all the things to spend <$300 on I cant imagine what else would give you this much of a feel/performance and look difference.

Sorry again for the delay everyone and any questions or different angles just ask, I'm back and just cleaning up the car today so should be around.

Thanks again Darren and Trav for the help, cant tell ya how awesome it is to have you in the area :thumbup:

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Pekingduck 08-20-2012 04:41 AM

I like these the best for look if coilovers are not the way you want to go

xclusive_brett 08-20-2012 05:07 AM

how did you get them already!?

DarrenDriven 08-20-2012 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive_brett (Post 390255)
how did you get them already!?

Purchased from Eibach.

Wolfking 08-20-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 390190)
Zach's FR-S after the install -- looks much better than stock!

How would we know? "Someone" failed to take comparison photos of the car. :slap:

Rawdog 08-20-2012 05:16 PM

any 24 hour reviews? Settling?

DarrenDriven 08-20-2012 05:19 PM

It hasn't even been 24 hours yet, hehe... be patient. :)

thatWESguy 08-20-2012 05:45 PM

waiting patiently

tnt 08-20-2012 06:09 PM

any reviews with 19 inch wheels :thanks:

cnk 08-20-2012 06:29 PM

There was a report on another forum where the OP claimed that these springs resulted in his friend's car blowing out their shocks. Will be interesting to see how these work out.

DarrenDriven 08-20-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 391445)
There was a report on another forum where the OP claimed that these springs resulted in his friend's car blowing out their shocks. Will be interesting to see how these work out.

You didn't read that thread very closely, it was NOT these springs and it was not the springs that caused the damage.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14599

cnk 08-20-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 391446)
You didn't read that thread very closely, it was NOT these springs and it was not the springs that caused the damage.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14599

I stand corrected. I recall reading the OP, but could not find it since reading it when it was first posted. Good to know that there is nothing wrong with them. I still prefer full coilovers over drop springs though. I had Cusco Zero2R's on my WRX and think I'll probably go with them again when I get my BRZ.

Chuynh207 08-20-2012 07:53 PM

Waiting patiently myself... Would really like to see how these are after 24s and what it's like daily driving them. Looking at getting springs in the near future

jumbaco 08-21-2012 07:56 PM

in for results later. Seems like a quite a bit of a drop for these cars. Looks good though.

zoomzoomers 08-21-2012 08:16 PM

In for results...

Jackson 08-22-2012 03:23 PM

Darren, the car looks great! You should not experience any spring settling with any Eibach springs. We have a pre-setting process that will eliminate any spring settling after install.

Sportline springs for the FR-S/BRZ are now in stock and shipping. :)

Rawdog 08-22-2012 11:51 PM

I hope it settles because that drop they measured isn't what you guys are advertising. Saw this on the pro as well and is discerning

Superhatch 08-23-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawdog (Post 396842)
I hope it settles because that drop they measured isn't what you guys are advertising. Saw this on the pro as well and is discerning

Just as an FYI, springs don't settle. If you have OEM bump stops usually it's those getting crushed, or tearing a bit that is the settle that you see. These look like they got another set of bump stops with them which replace the OEM stops (some springs just ask you to cut your OEMs), so I'm guessing there won't be much settling, assuming the bump stops are a little higher durometer than the OEMs.

Rawdog 08-23-2012 12:10 AM

That's probably why all the cars I've watched my buddy lower thru the years have all settled some because he never upgrades his bump stops

newkid185 08-23-2012 03:43 AM

waiting for the info too!!! wonder if the car need any mod for this set of spring cuz i heard somebody said that the OEM set up does not work well with any lower springs more than 1 inches.!!!

Synack 08-23-2012 02:30 PM

Wondering how the settling would be after a week. My 370Z originally got dropped on Swift Springs before coilovers and it dropped about half an inch about a week later. Can't wait to see the gap with bigger wheels too.

Synack 08-23-2012 02:38 PM

Just did a crude photoshop but forgot to save it. But I was able to portray how my 19 inch wheels with 255/35/19 tires would fit after Eibach Sportlines, and then gave it another .25 drop for settling.

Looks like there'll be a 1/2" gap after all said and done. Think I'll be fine with that until I blow the stock shocks and put on coilovers. Just wish I could buy these springs now!

DarrenDriven 08-23-2012 04:35 PM

Distance from center of front wheel to fender - FRONT
Stock springs: 14 7/16"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 1/4" drop)

Distance from center of front wheel to fender - REAR
Stock springs: 14 5/8"
Eibach Sportline: 13 5/16" (1 5/16" drop)

Took measurements after a couple of days and they didn't change, so these numbers are the final measurements for our installation.

Review coming soon.

D1cker 08-23-2012 07:28 PM

I'm thinking you're going to be the in the rear bump stops most of the time at that height? I'm at 13 3/4" in the rear with a stiffer spring (7.7kg/mm) and I'm on the bump stops a lot already.

thatWESguy 08-23-2012 08:48 PM

in for the review of these, I wonder how much the smaller bump stops would help w/ bottoming out

Synack 08-23-2012 11:53 PM

Hmmmm only dropped it 1.25 inches.....

Dave-ROR 08-24-2012 01:18 AM

Mine arrived in someone's luggage and not a box. Will post long review soon with track mileage and about 1500-2000 street miles :)

RallySport Direct 08-24-2012 02:46 AM

Looking forward to your review, we love our Eibach pro kit! :)

Thanks,
Rick

F3dzo 08-25-2012 05:52 PM

Id give a review but I bought the s-tech... So :/

Synack 08-25-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F3dzo (Post 402454)
Id give a review but I bought the s-tech... So :/

How are those? Good drop??

Sent from my Nexus 7

F3dzo 08-25-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 402579)
How are those? Good drop??

Sent from my Nexus 7

I posted my review in the suspension forum. I didn't want to start a diversion here.

DarrenDriven 08-26-2012 03:33 AM

Thanks F3dzo.

You guys, Zach had to fly to NY and that has caused a delay in his review for these springs. I apologize for keeping you guys in suspense, but this was an unforeseen issue and as soon as he returns we will have a report for you guys. Thanks for your patience!

Dave-ROR 08-26-2012 12:34 PM

I have 1500-2000 miles on mine, loaded with.. hell who knows how much weight, but probably 600-800lbs of crap. Shocks are doing fine of course but some bumps definately get harsh, but that was only an issue once loaded completely.. I got pics of all the crap that went into the car before the trip back from Ohio to Florida..

Darren, not trying to threadjack btw, so I hope this doesn't come off as such. I'll be posting my own review soon, just wanted to post quick updates before I have time to write the review. Sadly, just got home from Mid Ohio/vacation in Ohio and need to prepare for TS/Hurricane Isaac DR crap @ work :(

Zach 08-26-2012 08:16 PM

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Sorry for the delay, crazy week and I wanted to get some miles on the car before giving any quick judgement.

As soon as we put the car on the ground I was in love all over again. The drop isn't crazy visually but makes the car look much more purpose built as a "sports car". Spacers will be needed to get everything flush on stock wheels, at least in the rear, but its not terrible. This really is how the car should come stock, at least visually.

After putting about 5k miles on the stock suspension I could feel the difference getting in/out, again nothing crazy but a great reminded that you just lowered your car. My first drive was basically around the block to pick up some burgers for the guys at the shop (thanks again!) On that drive the car felt tighter but if stock was a 6 (arbitrary 1-10 for ride firmness) this was maybe a 7. Really was surprised how little it seemed to change the ride feel. Over the next few days things seemed to firm up a bit but nothing dramatic. Ruts and potholes were never fantastic to hit in the 86 but avoiding them has become more of a priority not for suspension travel but ride comfort. In fact, I have hit some mean bumps and pretty sure bottomed out the rear end travel and It wasn't that harsh at all.

I have not hit a track with the 86 before or after. I can say the car feels MUCH more planted in a street corner now, almost to a fault if you don't want to break the speed limit. On my daily commute there are several open empty corners I get to hit each day and play, the rear end grips the road with much more intent now and I have to be more aggressive to get it out. The car feels even more attached to the road, I have never had the tires chirp going into 3rd gear till now but maybe that could be the stock tires starting to wear.

In my opinion and for my driving abilities (not great) the 86 is quick around a typical road corner, not fast. Its so much fun to "play" that you totally forget about the fast part. You felt fast and certainly had fun but as with most things this starts to get boring, old and habitual. These springs turn the stock suspension up just one more notch and give you a new challenge to learn and grown with while giving the car a much cleaner and aggressive look.
Of all the things to spend <$300 on I cant imagine what else would give you this much of a feel/performance and look difference.

Sorry again for the delay everyone and any questions or different angles just ask, I'm back and just cleaning up the car today so should be around.

Thanks again Darren and Trav for the help, cant tell ya how awesome it is to have you in the area :thumbup:

DarrenDriven 08-27-2012 06:47 PM

Thanks Zach!!

jmkv 08-27-2012 09:25 PM

needs some staggered rims or a squared setup with staggering offset

Dave-ROR 08-27-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmkv (Post 406220)
needs some staggered rims or a squared setup with staggering offset

Why? For looks?

Synack 08-27-2012 11:04 PM

I'll need to see which lowers the car more, S-Tech or these. These don't look half bad though.

Fussy08X 08-28-2012 12:45 AM

Thanks Zach. These look great with the stock rims and will definately consider when I decide to lower mine. Its true this is how the car should have looked from factory.

How long did you have the car stock before adding these springs in? judging from your review theres been no detriment to the handling? all positive aye


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