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norcalpb 06-08-2022 03:31 PM

Has anyone tried the Revolution rear sway bar adjuster?
 
After some searching I didn’t see any mention of this. Seems pretty interesting as people have mentioned how their rear sway bars sit at an upward angle relative to the chassis. But not sure if this will even do much.

https://www.rhdjapan.com/revolution-...-gr86-zn8.html

https://image.nengun.com/catalogue/1...r-f07ef507.png

marco_mc22 06-08-2022 04:01 PM

Isn’t easier to adjust sway bar angle using adjustable endlinks?

Ohio Enthusiast 06-08-2022 04:05 PM

As their description suggests, it would help with lowered cars. I guess it could offer two benefits - one is increase clearance for the sway bars if there is any contact; another is the effective rate of the bar depends on the angle, so keeping it closer to horizontal will preserve the stiffness of the bar better.

Is it really beneficial, though? I'll let folks with lowered cars chime in if the two theoretical issues I raised are a real concern or not.

Ohio Enthusiast 06-08-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco_mc22 (Post 3528336)
Isn’t easier to adjust sway bar angle using adjustable endlinks?

You'll need pretty short endlinks if the car is lowered any significant amount, and then you might run into clearance issues with the bar or endlinks hitting suspension members.

In practice I'm sure you're right and these are not needed, but in theory they may give a benefit.

marco_mc22 06-08-2022 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3528340)
You'll need pretty short endlinks if the car is lowered any significant amount, and then you might run into clearance issues with the bar or endlinks hitting suspension members.

In practice I'm sure you're right and these are not needed, but in theory they may give a benefit.

Good point.

norcalpb 06-08-2022 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3528338)
As their description suggests, it would help with lowered cars. I guess it could offer two benefits - one is increase clearance for the sway bars if there is any contact; another is the effective rate of the bar depends on the angle, so keeping it closer to horizontal will preserve the stiffness of the bar better.

Is it really beneficial, though? I'll let folks with lowered cars chime in if the two theoretical issues I raised are a real concern or not.

I don't have any clearance issue like some others do as I'm only lowered 20mm so I'd mainly get it for better sway bar actuation and of course the bling. However at $234.37 shipped it's a tough buy without knowing more about it.

dragoontwo 06-23-2022 11:48 AM

It could be a neat product, and even better if one of the stateside vendors picked up the ball and ran with this(Verus, RCE, SPL parts...).

I would be in for a set manufactured here even if all it did was just level out the sway bar.

I noticed the upward angle on mine after installing the SS-1 and thought the end links would have to be pretty short to level the bar.

Anyone with a stock 22 care to provide a pic of the sway bar angle stock?

gpvecchi 06-23-2022 12:18 PM

I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas if the steering wasn't perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar if attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.

Racecomp Engineering 06-23-2022 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3530728)
I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas is steering was perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar is attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.

How short are your rear endlinks?

- Andrew

gpvecchi 06-24-2022 03:28 AM

68 mm at the lower setting. It's not enough for a 30 mm lowering, but it's better than nothing. I set them with same length for both, as it seems I have no preload (no corner balancing).

gpvecchi 06-24-2022 03:34 AM

If somebody is interested, I found an even better product, made by Blue Area, that combines Revolution brackets with R Magic ones. I couldn't source any seller or website anyway.
https://i.ibb.co/zh4QDg4/Screenshot-20220624-083350.png

NoHaveMSG 06-29-2022 01:11 PM

Seems like a good idea. I have my endlinks pulled down pretty far but since the tab on my swaybar is longer with all the different setting holes it contacts the bottom of the chassis under compression. Raising it would bring the tips down on my car some.

norcalpb 06-29-2022 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3530728)
I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas if the steering wasn't perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar if attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.

Do you have a picture of your GR sway bar? I remember you mentioning it years ago but I'm glad you got it to fit.

gpvecchi 06-30-2022 03:44 AM

https://i.ibb.co/HD10R27/p1.jpg

Not my car, but that's it. You need longer bolts and washers too.

dragoontwo 07-06-2022 06:16 PM

I'm going to have to revise my statement about the product in the OP. I think it makes more sense on a first gen and none sense on a second. Here's why.

I have been tinkering about with the rear sway bar on my second gen. The bushings mount on the opposite side that the first gen does. When you unhook the endlinks anh rotate the bar level with the ground on the second gen, the eyelets for the endlinks overhang the RLCA by quite a bit. This product would exacerbate that by making it overhang more. I would surmise that it gives the bar less overhang on the first gen.

Then there is the issue of space. This product has a 20mm offset. There isn't much past 20mm from the top hole on the second gen mount.

norcalpb 07-06-2022 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3533345)
I'm going to have to revise my statement about the product in the OP. I think it makes more sense on a first gen and none sense on a second. Here's why.

I have been tinkering about with the rear sway bar on my second gen. The bushings mount on the opposite side that the first gen does. When you unhook the endlinks anh rotate the bar level with the ground on the second gen, the eyelets for the endlinks overhang the RLCA by quite a bit. This product would exacerbate that by making it overhang more. I would surmise that it gives the bar less overhang on the first gen.

Then there is the issue of space. This product has a 20mm offset. There isn't much past 20mm from the top hole on the second gen mount.

I could be wrong but I believe the sway bar eyelets on both setups have an equal amount of overhang relative to the RLCAs. The centerline of the sway bar should be the same on both 1st and 2nd gen. I think a 2022 brz and 2022 gr86 can use the same sway bars.

Also this part will for sure not fit a 2022 brz as your setup doesnt have the required 3rd hole for the oem bracket's "hook" to slide into. On your setup, that hook just wraps around the bottom of the mount itself. The 2nd gen sway bar mounts are easily 20mm shorter as you mentioned.


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