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MikeNSX2 05-25-2022 12:41 PM

Impressions of my new Remark axle back (muffler delete) exhaust
 
I recently received a Remark axle-back (muffler delete) exhaust for my 2022 BRZ and have now had it on my car for about 2 weeks.

I wanted to give you my initial impressions of this exhaust.

SOUND and VOLUME: It is LOUD (sometimes). I guess that’s what one should expect from an exhaust with no mufflers. That said, it is pretty docile a lot of the time such as while driving at a level speed of say 50 or 60 mph or at 4500 rpm or below. It is definitely quite loud on start-up, and also loud when you get on it and get into a higher rpm range (above 4500 rpm). It is also loud when you decelerate from higher rpm by taking your foot off the gas to slow down. Let’s just say this…when really accelerating and decelerating above 4500 rpm, you cannot hear the piped in engine noise at all. At level speed or cruising, I’d say the volume level is a 2 to 3. Getting on it above 4500 rpm, the volume level is a 7 to 8. Overall sound is great and not overly obnoxious.

APPEARANCE: I bought the version with the double wall tips, and at 4 ½ inches in diameter they look great. Exhaust welds look great as well.

COST: Pricing is very reasonable. I paid $403.75 and received a $30 credit since it was my initial purchase on the website I purchased it from, so my total cost was $373.50.

INSTALLATION: Installing the Remark was very easy, and the Remark exhaust does weigh a lot less that the OEM muffler and tips.

CONCLUSION: I love this exhaust (about 95% of the time) and would highly recommend it, especially to someone who drives their BRZ as a weekend type car (like I do). I have owned a lot of performance and muscle cars that have been far louder than my 2022 BRZ with this Remark exhaust, so I personally could easily handle it even on a daily basis. For most, I do think it “might” be too loud for use on a daily driver, especially if you constantly shift at 5000 to 7000 rpm.

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ozafar 05-25-2022 01:16 PM

How is the drone at highway cruising speeds? Not expecting perfection, but could you last say 5 hours?

MikeNSX2 05-25-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ozafar (Post 3525423)
How is the drone at highway cruising speeds? Not expecting perfection, but could you last say 5 hours?

I hate to say this, but I've not ever driven my car on the highway since I purchased it in November. I always drive on nice curvy backroads when I take it out.

That said, I have gone a steady 60 mph on a few of the flatter sections of those roads, and the exhaust sound is nice and somewhat mellow with no drone. As I mentioned, the sound level (at least to my ears) is about a 2 to 3 out of 10 at constant level speeds.

I don't know about highway driving at 70 to 80 mph, but if it sounds the same as at 60 mph like I've experienced, I could easily handle the sound for 5 hours.

CincyJohn 05-25-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNSX2 (Post 3525414)
I wanted to give you my initial impressions of this exhaust.

SOUND and VOLUME: It is LOUD (sometimes).

I really can't imagine how this option isn't extremely loud (almost all of the time) and obnoxiously loud (like call the cops for a noise ordinance violation) on start-up (particularly cold) and at lower speeds. Unless you live in the woods and never drive anywhere but off-road, can't imagine how this would be a kind thing for others' unsuspecting and unconsenting ears.

MikeNSX2 05-25-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyJohn (Post 3525432)
I really can't imagine how this option isn't extremely loud (almost all of the time) and obnoxiously loud (like call the cops for a noise ordinance violation) on start-up (particularly cold) and at lower speeds. Unless you live in the woods and never drive anywhere but off-road, can't imagine how this would be a kind thing for others' unsuspecting and unconsenting ears.

It is not extremely loud (almost all of the time), nor is it obnoxiously loud at lower speeds.

As I mentioned, it is fairly loud on start-up (but that loudness doesn't last very long) as you know.

At lower speeds and at lower rpm levels, the sound is about a 2 to 3 out of 10 on the loudness scale according to my ears (and no...I'm not deaf). :)

Only when I get on it and rev to about 4500 to 5000 rpm and above does it come alive and sound louder, but it certainly is not too loud, nor obnoxiously loud.

I personally think it sounds fantastic.

CincyJohn 05-25-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNSX2 (Post 3525446)
It is not extremely loud (almost all of the time), nor is it obnoxiously loud at lower speeds.

As I mentioned, it is fairly loud on start-up (but that loudness doesn't last very long) as you know.

At lower speeds and at lower rpm levels, the sound is about a 2 to 3 out of 10 on the loudness scale according to my ears (and no...I'm not deaf). :)

Only when I get on it and rev to about 4500 to 5000 rpm and above does it come alive and sound louder, but it certainly is not too loud, nor obnoxiously loud.

I personally think it sounds fantastic.

I'd have to hear it myself to be sure. More importantly, I'd have to be sure I didn't hear it driving up my street at some ungodly hour or, if my neighbor had it, not having to use it as my morning alarm clock when he pulled out of his garage.

I generally try not to yuck someone else's yum if it's not hurting anyone else. But invading my space with your noise definitely falls outside that category.

OkieSnuffBox 05-25-2022 03:44 PM

Based on how loud these cars are with smaller mufflers I've heard in person, I have to imagine no mufflers is up there with Honda fart can bois as far as annoying volume.

NoHaveMSG 05-25-2022 04:02 PM

All the cars I have heard with a muffler delete, but all else stock haven’t been that loud to me. I’d reserve judgement till you heard it.

MikeNSX2 05-25-2022 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 3525492)
Based on how loud these cars are with smaller mufflers I've heard in person, I have to imagine no mufflers is up there with Honda fart can bois as far as annoying volume.

It's actually not. The only time the Remark is loud is on start up and when accelerating really quickly and staying in higher rpm levels (above 4500 rpm). Even though it might be loud above 4500 rpm, it sounds really good. Not ricer material at all...believe me. I'm a retired 64 year old stockbroker who would never own a car that sounded like a riced out fart can Honda.

If you are familiar with Miata's, the loudness of the Remark on my BRZ is similar to the Goodwin Racing Race exhaust I had on my previously owned Miata ND.

CincyJohn 05-25-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNSX2 (Post 3525506)
It's actually not. The only time the Remark is loud is on start up and when accelerating really quickly and staying in higher rpm levels (above 4500 rpm). Even though it might be loud above 4500 rpm, it sounds really good. Not ricer material at all...believe me. I'm a retired 64 year old stockbroker who would never own a car that sounded like a riced out fart can Honda.

If you are familiar with Miata's, the loudness of the Remark on my BRZ is similar to the Goodwin Racing Race exhaust I had on my previously owned Miata ND.

Once again, would have to hear it for myself. More importantly, would have to hear it starting up in my neighbor's garage or driving down my street.

OkieSnuffBox 05-25-2022 04:41 PM

It would be nice if companies would down load a $4 app to their phones when taking video and give us numbers between stock and their exhaust.

NoHaveMSG 05-25-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 3525510)
It would be nice if companies would down load a $4 app to their phones when taking video and give us numbers between stock and their exhaust.


Or just buy a proper DB meter since that’s what they do. Those phone apps are not that accurate.

Tcoat 05-25-2022 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3525516)
Or just buy a proper DB meter since that’s what they do. Those phone apps are not that accurate.

A few years back I did a comparison between 10 downable apps and my $1000 professional, calibrated, dB meter.
Turns out that 7 out of 10 were within a dB or so, 2 were off by about 10dB and one wasn't even close enough to say it worked. All were measured at the exact same distance and conditions.
All in all they were at par or better than the couple of $50 meters we had.

Tcoat 05-25-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox (Post 3525510)
It would be nice if companies would down load a $4 app to their phones when taking video and give us numbers between stock and their exhaust.

It isn't just measurable volume that can be annoying though. I have heard some low volume exhausts that made a very annoying noise even at a distance. Have also heard some rather loud ones that the tone made them not seem so bad.
When you get up into volumes of 80 to 100 dBs the volume difference can be hard to tell so tone can be what affects the ear more.

All in all sound can be very subjective.


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