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scionhobokenD 04-28-2022 09:56 PM

frs recall regarding valve spring defect
 
Hey Friends/ I own a 2013 Toyota FRS 70 tho miles.

i received a recall notice regarding valve spring problem

take this seriously??

thanks
doug

soundman98 04-28-2022 10:19 PM

many choose to disregard the recall, as some have had more problems from opening the motor than have had from the valve springs over 70k miles of use.

but without doing the recall, it's becoming significantly harder to renew the vehicle registration, or sell the vehicle, unless the recall is performed.

Ultramaroon 04-29-2022 12:33 AM

WAY higher risk of the work destroying your engine than the already statistically negligible risk of a spring breaking this far into your engine's life. I have said many times here that by the time the recall was issued, all the springs that were going to break had already done so long ago. Their own internal analysis agreed perfectly with the long-understood science.


Mine is a candidate. No way is anyone touching it.

TommyW 04-29-2022 11:21 AM

If you don’t need to do it to renew your registration then don’t do it

DarkPira7e 04-29-2022 12:52 PM

Tear that shit up and keep driving, please

scionhobokenD 04-29-2022 01:28 PM

Thanks everyone. appreciate it. Going to ignore it and keep driving.

Westen86 04-29-2022 05:57 PM

I bought a 2013 FRS in 2016. I have put 60,000 miles on it without issue. I am passing on the recall as well. Unless I find a Toyota tech that has done a lot of them, I dont trust a random Toyota to do Subaru work.

TommyW 04-29-2022 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westen86 (Post 3519956)
I bought a 2013 FRS in 2016. I have put 60,000 miles on it without issue. I am passing on the recall as well. Unless I find a Toyota tech that has done a lot of them, I dont trust a random Toyota to do Subaru work.

LOL, The service manager said his tech has done over a hundred of em. Motor went 3,000 mi later. The shop I used to rebuild it after that fiasco said everything was clogged with sealant. Doing the recall is like playing Russian Roulette.

zc06_kisstherain 04-29-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3519798)
many choose to disregard the recall, as some have had more problems from opening the motor than have had from the valve springs over 70k miles of use.

but without doing the recall, it's becoming significantly harder to renew the vehicle registration, or sell the vehicle, unless the recall is performed.

OP is in NJ so doesnt matter

Ultramaroon 04-29-2022 08:47 PM

NJDGAF

clio 05-01-2022 07:41 PM

I was questioning having the valve recall done but decided to on the basis purely of resale. Despite the engine apparently running perfectly Subaru found a failing rocker arm during the recall work. Required a new head and valves as some were slightly bent. Anyhow Subaru covered the entire work under 'goodwill'. This is despite me never buying a new Subaru and a patchy service history on the brz. For a car that's almost a decade old I was floored with the service.

Sur 05-01-2022 09:11 PM

Yea I got one today. Screw that noise. When I bought mine last year, had 60k on it. I contemplated taking it in, but then I asked the question here, and got my answer. If you car has made it this far, and had no issues, do not do the recall. More bad has come than good with this ordeal. Unless you have a BRZ, then atleast you will have Subaru mechanics working on you motor. But do not let Toyota touch it. From what I have heard, if you do the recall and you motor fails, you will have a big fight on your hands when you try to get Toyota to replace your motor. I’ve read through all the horror stories here.

I’d rather my engine blow up because I boosted it and from my own driving and my own decisions than have it blow and it be because I chose to let some Toyota techs not put any sealant or too much or the wrong kind while replacing the valve springs.

I will say, the first month, I was a little nervous every time I got in the highway, always thinking they would fail at the wrong time. But a year later, never have had a single mechanical issue (knock on wood) and I’m happy with my decision.

If it happens, it happens. But it probably won’t. Most of the cars that were gonna fail, have already failed.

Good luck out there.

AngelGT86Racer 05-02-2022 02:33 AM

I got mine done about 30k miles ago, BUT I was one of the first in my area to get my car into that Toyota dealership in late 2018. Thankfully the tech that did mine wasn't a total moron. 10+ track days later I'm still solid. HOWEVER, knowing what I know about how many of these engines died shortly after the recall I wouldn't go through with the recall again. Not worth the risk, though I did get a lot of new gaskets out of it and spark plug job free of charge.

Dadhawk 05-02-2022 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur (Post 3520244)
Unless you have a BRZ, then atleast you will have Subaru mechanics working on you motor. But do not let Toyota touch it.....

Not really true. The FA20 has a unique configuration and Toyota has done way more of the recalls than Subaru (they sold almost 3 to1 Toyota in 2013). I did have mine done, and it has almost 100K miles on it since the recall. There were some that had issues, but no one has been able to say what percentage did, and of those that did most were corrected by the dealer that caused the issue without drama.

I agree though, if I was just getting to this now after 10 years, and almost 200K miles, I'd not do it.


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