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euroshowoff 03-29-2022 11:50 PM

STI front vbar and rear draw stiffener?
 
Has anyone installed the oem rear draw stiffener and flexible front bar? Did you notice any driving improvements?

I recently watched a subtitled video on YT that suggested the rear draw stiffener makes a noticeable difference on the characteristics of the car. They did not go into specifics on the front bar however.


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Desertnate 03-30-2022 10:04 AM

I stumbled across that part too and wondered if it really performed as advertised.

Another part I've never seen before on other platforms and questioned its effectiveness is the door latch stiffeners and shims.

jimmyjazz86 04-01-2022 12:57 AM

I know a bunch of people with old NA/NB miatas will run the door latch doohickeys to stiffen up the chassis a touch. That said, compared to a modern, nonconvertible platform like this one, they are not nearly as stiff from the factory.

Daedex 04-01-2022 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by euroshowoff (Post 3513758)
Has anyone installed the oem rear draw stiffener and flexible front bar? Did you notice any driving improvements?

I recently watched a subtitled video on YT that suggested the rear draw stiffener makes a noticeable difference on the characteristics of the car. They did not go into specifics on the front bar however.


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Originally Posted by Desertnate (Post 3513795)
I stumbled across that part too and wondered if it really performed as advertised.

Another part I've never seen before on other platforms and questioned its effectiveness is the door latch stiffeners and shims.


I installed it.


Negligible differences in ride quality. However, there is less NVH after the install.

Desertnate 04-01-2022 09:50 AM

Interesting to hear that it cut down on the NVH. I would have thought it might go the other way and increase some of the noise/vibration by making the car stiffer.

Daedex 04-01-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Desertnate (Post 3514303)
Interesting to hear that it cut down on the NVH. I would have thought it might go the other way and increase some of the noise/vibration by making the car stiffer.


I think it may be the rubber boot that covers the joint? Idk. At any rate, less NVH is always a positive in my book.

KillerBMotorsport 04-01-2022 02:51 PM

I don't get the rear one. It's out in the ass end; well beyond where any stiffening is going to benefit suspension geometry.

Interceptor777 04-04-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Desertnate (Post 3514303)
Interesting to hear that it cut down on the NVH. I would have thought it might go the other way and increase some of the noise/vibration by making the car stiffer.

I may be wrong, but up to a certain level adding stiffness allows the suspension to absorb more of the impacts instead of your chassis also flexing to absorb them.

Your suspension is silent, chassis flexing is not.

Blighty 04-05-2022 09:14 AM

I'd be more interested in the tower strut they have, but yet to announce one for the new model. Actually I wonder the the old one still fits as the height of the intake plenum has changes hasn't it?

Re_Invention 04-05-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3515143)
I'd be more interested in the tower strut they have, but yet to announce one for the new model. Actually I wonder the the old one still fits as the height of the intake plenum has changes hasn't it?

I came to the same concern - I'd like to get the four STI parts together (V bars, strut brace, front & rear draw stiffener) but lack of confirmation on fitment on the brace and front stiffener on the ZD8 are keeping me on the sidelines. It looks like it would clear but yeah.. dunno.

dragoontwo 04-05-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Re_Invention (Post 3515189)
I came to the same concern - I'd like to get the four STI parts together (V bars, strut brace, front & rear draw stiffener) but lack of confirmation on fitment on the brace and front stiffener on the ZD8 are keeping me on the sidelines. It looks like it would clear but yeah.. dunno.

The v-bars that come on the car are the same part number as the previous gen. Look at the Subaru parts website, and it lists that they(stock solid v-bars) fit all models of BRZ.

I have the '18 tS flexible v-bars on my '22. Only caveat is they are all black. No bling.

Front draw stiffener will be a no go as there are extra stiffening braces on the '22 model where this will go.

The rear draw stiffener is listed as ZC6/ZD8 compatible.

I can't confirm, but I'll bet that the strut brace is a direct fit.

Re_Invention 04-05-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3515196)
The v-bars that come on the car are the same part number as the previous gen. Look at the Subaru parts website, and it lists that they(stock solid v-bars) fit all models of BRZ.

I have the '18 tS flexible v-bars on my '22. Only caveat is they are all black. No bling.

Front draw stiffener will be a no go as there are extra stiffening braces on the '22 model where this will go.

The rear draw stiffener is listed as ZC6/ZD8 compatible.

I can't confirm, but I'll bet that the strut brace is a direct fit.

Cheers Dragoon, I saw your PM, too. I'll be the guinea pig and bite the bullet on buying the tower brace. I ordered it with the rear draw stiffener and V bars. The all black tS units are cheaper, $415 shipped, compared to the bling ones which are about $470 shipped with customs, but figure I'll splurge so it all comes in one package.

Will be here in a couple of weeks, will report back on the units, fitment and feel.

Blighty 04-06-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Re_Invention (Post 3515261)
Cheers Dragoon, I saw your PM, too. I'll be the guinea pig and bite the bullet on buying the tower brace. I ordered it with the rear draw stiffener and V bars. The all black tS units are cheaper, $415 shipped, compared to the bling ones which are about $470 shipped with customs, but figure I'll splurge so it all comes in one package.

Will be here in a couple of weeks, will report back on the units, fitment and feel.

Good luck. You can always sell it. I only worry that is why they haven't made it available, because it is a slightly angled low one for a tower strut, it doesn't go straight up, it kinds keeps low and angled.

Tatsu333 12-17-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBMotorsport (Post 3514370)
I don't get the rear one. It's out in the ass end; well beyond where any stiffening is going to benefit suspension geometry.

Exactly. It doesn't even tie into the suspension at all - it's on the rear of the body, behind the rear bumper...? Makes no sense to me what it's even supposed to be doing, unless they're saying the rear of the body stamping is pulling apart under cornering loads. :iono:

There's a good picture of it installed with the rear bumper off at this link on Subispeed's website.


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