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GronkNE 03-25-2022 12:15 PM

Paint Protection
 
I pick up my GR86 tomorrow morning. Have any of you applied PPF or Ceramic coating? If so, what do you recommend? Thanks.

Tcoat 03-25-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GronkNE (Post 3512786)
I pick up my GR86 tomorrow morning. Have any of you applied PPF or Ceramic coating? If so, what do you recommend? Thanks.

I will never get a new car without ceramic again.

Ghost of Akina 03-25-2022 04:26 PM

Get your car PPF to save it from rock chips and buy and coat it with CQuartz UK 3.0 + Gliss. You can do it yourself and save some $$$ and learn a new skill.
Protected and easy to clean.

Ghost of Akina 03-25-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3512787)
I will never get a new car without ceramic again.

That Hakone green must look great in person when clean with ceramic coating!

Tcoat 03-25-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3512881)
That Hakone green must look great in person when clean with ceramic coating!

It glows.

RToyo86 03-25-2022 06:58 PM

Ask your dealer for a quote on PPF.
I got my 2017 done prior to taking delivery. Price ended up being priced better after calling around for quotes.

Ceramic is nice, makes washing a lot easier. Carpro, optimum are popular. DIY is possible with consumer grade coatings if you are handy with a polisher.

Tokay444 03-25-2022 07:47 PM

Xpel PPF then Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra with Exo topper.
Get it done at an accredited detailer. Buy once cry once.

Decep 03-27-2022 03:32 PM

Ceramic coating is essentially chemical protection, PPF is physical protection. You can decontaminate your car easily without ceramic coating but you can't really protect your car 100% from rock chips etc without PPF.

Or do both. Ceramic coating like Cquartz UK3.0 is extremely easy to DIY apply, and can go on top of PPF. I would never pay what guys are charging for ceramic coatings, it's nuts. At minimum get your front bumper PFF'd because it's going to look like the surface of the moon in 5 years if my car is a good example

GronkNE 03-30-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3512787)
I will never get a new car without ceramic again.

Did you do it yourself or have it done?

Tcoat 03-30-2022 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GronkNE (Post 3513935)
Did you do it yourself or have it done?

Got it thrown in the deal when I bought the car. The dealership has their own facility that does it.
Probably no reason you couldn't do it yourself but it is the sort of thing I personally leave up to the experts.

Tcoat 03-30-2022 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3513220)
Ceramic coating is essentially chemical protection, PPF is physical protection. You can decontaminate your car easily without ceramic coating but you can't really protect your car 100% from rock chips etc without PPF.

Or do both. Ceramic coating like Cquartz UK3.0 is extremely easy to DIY apply, and can go on top of PPF. I would never pay what guys are charging for ceramic coatings, it's nuts. At minimum get your front bumper PFF'd because it's going to look like the surface of the moon in 5 years if my car is a good example

Let's be clear (no pun intended) in that ceramic is in no way, shape, or form a protective coating. The name is deceiving in that it implies it leaves some sort of hard coating. It doesn't. What it does do is penetrate the small spaces in the paint at a molecular level to make the surface super slick and shiny. The only "protection" it offers is that things don't stick as easy.

The PFF on the bumper will help with the very tiny bits that hit it but anything much bigger just tears it and chips the paint anyway. After a few thousand miles the PFF can actually look worse than the paint! And if worried about cost I wouldn't pay anybody to do that anymore than apply ceramic since it is just as "easy" to apply as ceramic and just as expensive.

With what it costs to do a bumper I will just get it resprayed every couple of years when it get's too nasty.

Tokay444 03-31-2022 01:23 PM

Unless the dealer subs it out to an accredited installer, do not use the dealer. The nightmares that show up at detailers from dealerships are unfathomable.

Tokay444 03-31-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3513947)
Let's be clear (no pun intended) in that ceramic is in no way, shape, or form a protective coating. The name is deceiving in that it implies it leaves some sort of hard coating. It doesn't. What it does do is penetrate the small spaces in the paint at a molecular level to make the surface super slick and shiny. The only "protection" it offers is that things don't stick as easy.

The PFF on the bumper will help with the very tiny bits that hit it but anything much bigger just tears it and chips the paint anyway. After a few thousand miles the PFF can actually look worse than the paint! And if worried about cost I wouldn't pay anybody to do that anymore than apply ceramic since it is just as "easy" to apply as ceramic and just as expensive.

With what it costs to do a bumper I will just get it resprayed every couple of years when it get's too nasty.

Ceramic coatings are many times harder than the clear coat of your paint. It is in fact a coating, and it does increase the harness.

JD001 03-31-2022 01:36 PM

My car has had its cermaic coating for about 7years now, and it still works. However, as stated above it doesn't stop stone chips.. I have also used PFF in the past (not on the same car), it worked pretty well. I trust that PFF has progressed, new systems are a lot more advanced and again tempting (only to stop stone chips)..


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