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Kaotic Lazagna 06-26-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3531161)
Any tip on that track? I’m just too lazy to do track experience lol Did quick 5 test laps & im about 4 secs slow.

lol, I should have done the track experience, but was too lazy as well. I just did the races there. haha

Take the "S" section at the beginning of the track flat out in the twins. For me, I have to start turning in for the left turn earlier than I originally thought, kinda like the left hairpin turn before the tunnel at Trial Mountain.

I picked up the most time at the chicane. Brake much later than you think you should. I'm pretty much braking right before it actually starts and trail brake halfway through it.

I lost the most time at the boot at the corner going right. I guess it's called the "Toe" of the boot? Haven't really figured that one out, but going around 60 mph in the twins seems to work and don't overshoot the braking zone (I still haven't figured out where's the best point).

Speaking of the boot section, I think that's where I held gears instead of upshifting.

The second to last corner, the left turn one, treat it like R130 (or what ever that turn is called) at Suzuka. Don't actually need to brake in the twins for it, and a quick stab at the brakes for much faster cars.

The last corner I kept down shifting down to 3rd, but stay in 4th.




LMK how it goes after trying those out.

fredzy 06-28-2022 10:42 AM

2:08.309 with 2nd gen

I had a head start at Watkins Glen from Assetto Corsa. I tend to prefer shorter slower tracks but I really like it. Definitely all about staying in high gear and holding momentum through turns.

https://i.imgur.com/w6eIHfa.jpg

ichitaka05 06-29-2022 03:32 PM

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I’m throwing the towel. I shave sec or so, but this is best I can do at this track

ichitaka05 06-29-2022 06:25 PM

Also to add, I'll prob add Unlimited Class from Race 6. I think, that could be interesting to see how much different time everyone gets.

Kaotic Lazagna 06-29-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3531968)
Also to add, I'll prob add Unlimited Class from Race 6. I think, that could be interesting to see how much different time everyone gets.

So it'll go from GR86 to Mazda LM55. LOL

This is where I don't shine. Haha.

fredzy 06-29-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3531972)
So it'll go from GR86 to Mazda LM55. LOL

This is where I don't shine. Haha.

Nah youll be fast as hell in anything! Unless you’re alluding to tuning… This is generally a problem for me. Still I’ll give it a go if we do it (I feel bad for not doing 1st gen :( )

I remember in GT5 days going into lobbies I’d ham-fistedly tune my car up to max specs and not be competitive at all. Figured oh well I suck. GT6 quick match same thing… until I tried some of the events where you could only use a set selection of loaner vehicles. Found myself out front with surprising regularity! Turns out tuning can make worlds of difference and I was hopeless at it. Lots of tricks, unrealistic adjustments that would never be faster in real life. I learned just what I needed to be competitive. When GT Sport came it was different, I copied tunes but never really learned it. Haven’t bothered since.

ichitaka05 06-29-2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3531972)
So it'll go from GR86 to Mazda LM55. LOL

This is where I don't shine. Haha.

Haha still required to use 86/BRZ. Just unlimited mods.

Kaotic Lazagna 06-29-2022 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fredzy (Post 3531976)
Nah youll be fast as hell in anything! Unless you’re alluding to tuning… This is generally a problem for me. Still I’ll give it a go if we do it (I feel bad for not doing 1st gen :( )

I remember in GT5 days going into lobbies I’d ham-fistedly tune my car up to max specs and not be competitive at all. Figured oh well I suck. GT6 quick match same thing… until I tried some of the events where you could only use a set selection of loaner vehicles. Found myself out front with surprising regularity! Turns out tuning can make worlds of difference and I was hopeless at it. Lots of tricks, unrealistic adjustments that would never be faster in real life. I learned just what I needed to be competitive. When GT Sport came it was different, I copied tunes but never really learned it. Haven’t bothered since.

Haha, I don't mind tuning. I'm not the best at it, and tune a car towards my racing preference (slightly over steer). I actually tend to get tuning mods rather than power assets in racing games.

Back with the original GT and GT2, I knew nothing about tuning cars. Shoot, I had never driven a car at that point yet. I played around with the different adjustments and figured out how each setting affected the car. Didn't really know the mechanics behind them, but just x affects the car in this or that way.

I don't really use group 1 and higher racing cars, so I'm not used to how they drive. Pretty sure I wouldn't be the fastest if we had to use those.



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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3531979)
Haha still required to use 86/BRZ. Just unlimited mods.

Ooooh, nice. Should be interesting. I'll have to actually mod mine then and get used to it. Haha

spcmafia 06-30-2022 08:11 AM

I gave WG a quick try on the 22 BRZ and the best I could come up with was 2:13 and change. I'll give it a few more laps today.


Edit: How is the BRZ lower than the GR in PPs?

ichitaka05 06-30-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3532057)
Edit: How is the BRZ lower than the GR in PPs?

That was the case for even older gen BRZ as well. GT86 was more PP than BRZ. Also lap time is fraction slower than 86/GR86. But I think it’s the preference imo

spcmafia 06-30-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3532088)
That was the case for even older gen BRZ as well. GT86 was more PP than BRZ. Also lap time is fraction slower than 86/GR86. But I think it’s the preference imo


There is also the thing with either using the GT86 Special edition and the STi BRZ, the STi has more PP than any other first gen.

ichitaka05 06-30-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3532101)
There is also the thing with either using the GT86 Special edition and the STi BRZ, the STi has more PP than any other first gen.

Yeah, saw that… but oddly, GT86 Special Edi has 1 bhp more than STI BRZ Sports. It’s so odd

spcmafia 06-30-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3532102)
Yeah, saw that… but oddly, GT86 Special Edi has 1 bhp more than STI BRZ Sports. It’s so odd


I agree, its been discussed at length that the new gen BRZ is more track focused than the GR, even by the slightest margin. Also the case with 1st gen. That should technically put the BRZs at a higher PP than 86s.



Pretty sure Toyota slid a couple Starbucks gift cards to the devs whenever they were getting the licenses and permits for the cars.

ichitaka05 07-02-2022 05:17 PM

Race 5 is finished.

1st Gen
Laz - 2:11.533
ichi - 2:13.642

2nd Gen
fredzy - 2:08.309
Laz - 2:08.874
ichi - 2:10.602

Current point ranking:
1st Gen
Laz - 25 pts
ichi - 20 pts

2nd Gen
Laz - 23 pts
ichi - 18 pts
fredzy - 16 pts

We’ll have Independence Day break & we’ll be back Racing again from July 9th.

@Kaotic Lazagna make sure to choose Race 6 track by July 7th.

@fredzy you got a bit more time. You got until July 14th to choose the track for Race 7.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-02-2022 07:18 PM

Gonna keep with the "I don't like this track" train and say Autopolis full course for round 6. Not sure why I dislike this track so much.

ichitaka05 07-02-2022 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3532678)
Gonna keep with the "I don't like this track" train and say Autopolis full course for round 6. Not sure why I dislike this track so much.

That’s my home island track. Driven in real life before & honestly it’s a lot of fun in real life. Some corner doesn’t justify in the digital.

With that said, I’m not best at it lol

Kaotic Lazagna 07-03-2022 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3532710)
That’s my home island track. Driven in real life before & honestly it’s a lot of fun in real life. Some corner doesn’t justify in the digital.

With that said, I’m not best at it lol

Nice. I have never driven on any tracks, even though I'm only several hours from maybe four, two of which are in GT7. lol

ichitaka05 07-03-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3532732)
Nice. I have never driven on any tracks, even though I'm only several hours from maybe four, two of which are in GT7. lol


I wish UMC (or old name MMP)… but sadly Utah isn’t that popular plus Salt Flats is more popular lol

Kaotic Lazagna 07-03-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3532743)
I wish UMC (or old name MMP)… but sadly Utah isn’t that popular plus Salt Flats is more popular lol

Your "location" now makes a little more sense. Lol.

ichitaka05 07-03-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3532747)
Your "location" now makes a little more sense. Lol.


Isn’t it? This is my usual convo at the event.

Dude: cool, cool… so where are you living now?
Me: Middle of nowhere
Dude: Where?
Me: Utah
Dude: Where’s that?
Me: have you heard of Salt Flats?
Dude: Yeah!
Me: I live 2hrs away from there.

7 out of 10 new ppl convo will end that way lol

ichitaka05 07-08-2022 01:59 PM

Hopefully everyone had a nice week break! Race 6: Autopolis - Full course will be happening from tomorrow ~ July 15th.

I'm also adding Unlimited Class from Race 6. Here's a quick guide to Unlimited class.

Tires: Racing Soft
Mods: Unlimited. Mod as much as you can!
Cars:
Toyota
- '15 GT86
- 16 GT86 Limited
- '16 GRMN 86
- '21 GR86 RZ

Subaru
- '15 BRZ S
- '18 BRZ STI Sport
- '21 BRZ S

So other than Gr4 GT86, Rally GT86 or GT300 BRZ, you're allow to use any 86/BRZ.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-08-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533638)
Hopefully everyone had a nice week break! Race 6: Autopolis - Full course will be happening from tomorrow ~ July 15th.

I'm also adding Unlimited Class from Race 6. Here's a quick guide to Unlimited class.

Tires: Racing Soft
Mods: Unlimited. Mod as much as you can!
Cars:
Toyota
- '15 GT86
- 16 GT86 Limited
- '16 GRMN 86
- '21 GR86 RZ

Subaru
- '15 BRZ S
- '18 BRZ STI Sport
- '21 BRZ S

So other than Gr4 GT86, Rally GT86 or GT300 BRZ, you're allow to use any 86/BRZ.


Even though I'm the one that chose it, I'm so not looking forward to this round. LOL.

I think I'll do one with a stock GR86 like we have been, as well as the zenki 1st gen, and one with a modded GR86. Not sure if I'll go all out on mods as I don't really like doing the weight reduction mods or engine internals for some reason.

ichitaka05 07-08-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3533673)
I think I'll do one with a stock GR86 like we have been, as well as the zenki 1st gen, and one with a modded GR86. Not sure if I'll go all out on mods as I don't really like doing the weight reduction mods or engine internals for some reason.

I'm struggling with the suspension setup... especially Autopolis doesn't help. It has so many types of corners, so if you setup one way, you gonna sacrifice few corners. Honestly, stock classes make me think about how to drive better vs Unlimited class make me think about how to tune the suspension & gearing more than driving it better.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-08-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533674)
I'm struggling with the suspension setup... especially Autopolis doesn't help. It has so many types of corners, so if you setup one way, you gonna sacrifice few corners. Honestly, stock classes make me think about how to drive better vs Unlimited class make me think about how to tune the suspension & gearing more than driving it better.

I'll find out tomorrow. haha

ichitaka05 07-08-2022 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3533675)
I'll find out tomorrow. haha

I'll be interested to see your time. Show your Track experience and you beat me. Just modded 86/BRZ doesn't drip as GTR lol

Kaotic Lazagna 07-08-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533677)
I'll be interested to see your time. Show your Track experience and you beat me. Just modded 86/BRZ doesn't drip as GTR lol

I did the track experience for it? Haha. I've lost track of those. I probably just did all Asian tracks.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-09-2022 12:40 AM

Also, I think we should prohibit nitrous. LOL

ichitaka05 07-09-2022 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3533730)
Also, I think we should prohibit nitrous. LOL

Good news is, it doesn’t allow you to use it to begin w. Only time nitrous is able to use is only in the race time. At time laps, it doesn’t allow you to used it.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-09-2022 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533738)
Good news is, it doesn’t allow you to use it to begin w. Only time nitrous is able to use is only in the race time. At time laps, it doesn’t allow you to used it.

oooooh. lol. Shows you how much experience, or lack thereof, I have with nitrous. HA

fredzy 07-11-2022 08:23 AM

Has anyone done any laps at Autopolis yet? I put a few laps in with GR86 but was petty fatigued by then and just wanted to go to sleep. Barely got under 2:08. I can tell there's a lot of time left out there.

I did the CE beforehand, struggled with it purely out of learning the track. I think my problem with it and why I can't seem to learn it well is there are few landmarks on most of the track. Usually not a big deal but there are 3 whole areas where all of the curves sort of blend together and it takes a lot longer than usual for me to get the hang of placing the car. I get totally lost.

ichitaka05 07-11-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fredzy (Post 3533866)
Has anyone done any laps at Autopolis yet? I put a few laps in with GR86 but was petty fatigued by then and just wanted to go to sleep. Barely got under 2:08. I can tell there's a lot of time left out there.

I did the CE beforehand, struggled with it purely out of learning the track. I think my problem with it and why I can't seem to learn it well is there are few landmarks on most of the track. Usually not a big deal but there are 3 whole areas where all of the curves sort of blend together and it takes a lot longer than usual for me to get the hang of placing the car. I get totally lost.

Last week I was testing out, my stock GR86 average 2:07~08 (haven’t done it this week to count for an official time).

Honestly CE screwed me over. Because 86 & GTR character & grip is completely different, so if you try to apply same kinda thing into 86, it doesn’t work… at least for me.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-11-2022 11:10 AM

I was gonna try it on Saturday, but got lazy and played Rocket League instead. Lol

That's also my problem. I also use landmarks for my braking and turn in reference points. Couldn't ever find good ones for that track.

fredzy 07-11-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533890)
Last week I was testing out, my stock GR86 average 2:07~08 (haven’t done it this week to count for an official time).

Honestly CE screwed me over. Because 86 & GTR character & grip is completely different, so if you try to apply same kinda thing into 86, it doesn’t work… at least for me.

I guess it's that way with all of the CE's. 10/10ths in a GT3 (or god forbid an LMP) never really translates great to road cars. Helps to memorize the track though, and usually some of the main quirks of how to best take corners carry over in principle.

ichitaka05 07-11-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3533901)
That's also my problem. I also use landmarks for my braking and turn in reference points. Couldn't ever find good ones for that track.

Really? I thought there were enough landmarks… or maybe I’m just used to race in that track that I know what to look for? Idk

Kaotic Lazagna 07-11-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3533903)
Really? I thought there were enough landmarks… or maybe I’m just used to race in that track that I know what to look for? Idk

Maybe. So far I've only found two good braking points. There's a right corner where before it, there is a walkway/narrow road on the left side of the track. And for the tight off camber hairpin, the second to last board on the right. Every other corner, I'm SOL.


Oh, first corner I use the perpendicular line on the ground for my braking point.

WolfpackS2k 07-11-2022 05:10 PM

A problem I have with braking/turn in points is that I mostly use the bumper cam view. And at some tracks, due to topography, you can't see very well from being so low to the ground.

Kaotic Lazagna 07-13-2022 11:06 AM

Gonna try to get the times for the 3 cars tonight.

ichitaka05 07-13-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3534365)
Gonna try to get the times for the 3 cars tonight.

I'm very interested to see your lap time. I feel like you gonna be hitting 6 secs for GR86 and 10secs for GT86. Unlimited Easily <2mins... maybe into low 40's?

Or is that too low of expectation? lol :burnrubber: :burnrubber: :burnrubber:

Kaotic Lazagna 07-13-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3534374)
I'm very interested to see your lap time. I feel like you gonna be hitting 6 secs for GR86 and 10secs for GT86. Unlimited Easily <2mins... maybe into low 40's?

Or is that too low of expectation? lol :burnrubber: :burnrubber: :burnrubber:

I dunno about that. Like I said, I don't like that track at all. Lol

Kaotic Lazagna 07-13-2022 11:51 PM

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Okay, here are my times for the zenki 86 and stock GR86. 4 laps each and called it quits.


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