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KillerBMotorsport 03-13-2022 09:20 PM

What's Your 2nd Gen Mod Path?
 
So now that some of us have racked up some miles in our 2nd Gen, what do you feel your mod path will be to make a good thing better?

Appearance, handling, sound, performance, etc...

And to what extent? Few hundred on chassis stiffening or appearance mods. Or big dollar 'builds' that are more transformational?

Really curious to see what everyone's thoughts are on what areas they feel are lacking, and to what extent.

:thanks:

jvincent 03-13-2022 10:07 PM

On my first gen I did headers, tune, coilovers, rear LCAs, and some bushings. Oh and JDM exhaust tips.

Once spring/summer hits here I'm going to get some camber bolts and probably call it a day.

Re_Invention 03-13-2022 10:31 PM

Fun thread - looking forward to reading other replys.

I've got mine broken out into three phases:

The In Progress
  • 949racing 6UL's 17x8 + Falken RT660 225/45 + SPC camber bolts + EBC Yellows + hacked gt3 brake ducts with trimmed dust shields
  • Schroth Rallye 3 ASM + 949racing steering wheel extender + Cusco throttle pedal extension + Lathewerks angled shifter extension
  • Weir Performance 4.875 FD + Greddy diff cover + Cusco axle boot shields
  • Subaru STI engine and transmission mounts + STI BRZ gen2 Sport Springs (maybe... worried it'll all be too stiff)
  • Jackson Racing dual rad/oil cooler (when available)
  • Delicious Tuning e85 kit (when available)
Estimated cost ~$7,300

So far, feels like factory, aiming to keep it that way. I'm iffy on the mounts springs being too stiff - would like a little more feedback though. Goal is to go sub-44 at the local kart track (Adams) with this setup and still have a reasonable daycare drop off taxi. I'm currently 46.8 with a 200lb passenger.

The Pipedream
  • AP Racing Sprint BBK
  • IRP shifter
  • Ohlins Road and Track
  • OS Giken LSD
  • lighter muffler (any brand single exit)
  • lighter weight Odyssey battery + bracket
  • Cusco rear lower control arms
  • Cusco differential mount bushings
  • [x brand] front and rear sways bars + end links
  • TRD brace kit
Estimated cost ~$9,200

Individually I love the parts in this list, heck I daydream about them. But collectively I think this'll turn a factory screwed together car feeling into a backyard special. Been there with prior builds, there's that distinct turning point when the car starts feeling like a [never ending] project. I don't want to repeat that but I'm sure tempted to nab a few items though... the AP/Ohlins/IRP combo would be killer!!! Maybe I should call this 'the if it goes on sale' list.

The "let's talk about it after a new house"
  • Verus carbon drive shaft
  • Cusco lightweight flywheel
  • CAE Shifter
  • ACE 4-2-1 header
  • RPF1 17x9 + 255/40 200tw cheaters on sale
  • hacked/widened fenders
  • XIDA coilovers + top mounts
  • Rollcage + Recaro SPG XL + full safety suite
Estimated cost ~$14,000 + tow vehicle + toy hauler

Hello racecar!

Isn't it normal to invest the cost of the car back into it...? :drinking:

Midnightsky 03-13-2022 11:19 PM

Seat time, more seat time, seat time, and then even more seat time.

mr.whiskers 03-13-2022 11:55 PM

I am pretty new to the whole sports car thing so I dont have any crazy plans yet. Plus I blew a lot of money buying this car so kinda want to take it easy and minimize my purchases at least for couple of years.
Another reason for taking it slow is I am very new to autocross, last summer was my first season where I did 5 sessions so definately looking forward to warmer days and the beginning of our 2022 autocross season. But I also realize a rwd car will be a learning curve for me, so I just wanna start learning on a completely stock car and maybe I will add small mods one by one. I think that would be the best route for learning performance driving and enjoying the car for a long time.

I have installed Subaru mudflaps and ordered the MTC clutch spring

So far I for sure want to do a tint, probably in May when it really warms up.
Next up would probably be OEM camber bolts and find a place who know what they are doing and willing to get as much camber as possible, but I wanna get some sessions under my belt in a completely stock car first.

Long term I want exhaust for sure, probably Invidia N2 or Q300. Havent really decided for sure, but that will probably happen in 2023 if everything goes ok.

After the stock Premacies go will look into 200tw tire, I am not sure when that will happen.

Thats pretty much all my plans for now, havent really thought beyond that

eyeballs 03-14-2022 01:30 AM

So far:
300+ tw trackable tires on wider wheels
trd door stabilizers
factory crash bolts, max neg camber
tint all around plus windshield
headlight films
gr86 splash guards
cheater gas pedal
jdm tips
led dome light bulbs
higher temp pads/fluid

near future:
quiet catback plus catted/resonated over pipe/front pipe combo
coilovers vs yellows/bilstein/pedders
oil cooler - only if needed

when available:
properly developed headers (likely EL)
tune for 91 octane (no 93 or e85 available locally)

not in the plan but who am I kidding:
miscellaneous stiffer bushings/inserts
dedicated track wheelset
big brake kit
more competitive coilovers

This car is my daily and my fun car. Should see 7-8 time trial events per year at my local kart track, plus 1 or 2 snow events. I'm sure at some point I'll take some road trips to normal road course events, but that will not be the build focus.

ozafar 03-14-2022 01:57 AM

In progress:
-Brembo GT front and rear with XP20s for track days
-RCE SS1 coilovers
-18x8.5 Enkei TSVs on MP4Ss

Next year:
-Borla catback exhaust
-Wing, splitter, canards, and diffuser all from the same company (maybe verus)
-Engine mounts

And after that IDK

Jianlun 03-14-2022 07:45 AM

Ethos/Concept: Lightweight Responsive OEM+

Run OEM+ until timing plateaus, then add engine/response and run until timing plateaus, then add handling/rawness until timing plateaus. Buy an EV and die bored.

Tentative plan:

Phase 1 (the essentials, OEM+)
Steering wheel - Momo Mod 07 and works bell kit
TRD strut bar
Gear knob - delrin diy
Seat - tillett B5 driver, recaro rail.
Battery - antigravity 51R
Wheels - 17x7 et42 RPF1 black
Window tint
Joying 10in head unit
Car cam 4k
TPMS
Mishimoto or knock off oil catch can
Whiteline KCA416 for upper hole.
Diy driveshaft boot shield
Interior lights LED replacements

Phase 2 (more poowweerrr/response)
Exhaust - hks spec-L2 with diy diffuser to match
Brakes - AP sprint kit.
Carbon propshaft - DSS.
Carbon boot (if much lighter than stock)
Air intake - TRD/Injen
OFT or rom raider

Phase 3 (max response/track focused)
Flywheel - excedy TF02
Final drive - 4.5FD
RacerX RUCA
Greddy big rear diff cover
Cusco or Whiteline bushing inserts
Sti or similiar hardened rubber "group N" engine and trans mounts.

Phase 3+ (min performance gain, only if have spare cash)
Verus or SPL RUCA
SPL FLCA
2 piece rear rotors, oem replacement
Passenger tillet seat to match driver's
Cusco steering rack bushings
Short shifter/shifter springs

Pete 03-14-2022 10:11 AM

Short term not much. I might throw a header and tune on if good ones become available. Maybe various bushings and a short throw shifter to tighten up a bit.

Wheel/tires and sway bars are also a possibility but the grip on the new car is so much better there isn't any urgency.

The car drives great out of the box. I am not trying to be controversial, but when I got the first gen it felt like it needed more power as quick as I could make that happen. This time not so much. I had a vortech supercharger on my '13 frs and it pulled great at the top end, but the new car pulls harder through the entire rev range except the very top end.

Long term (3 or more years away) I do plan on adding FI of some sort, but I'll have to see what the options are around that time. I want it to be as high quality as possible, so one of the bigger brands/well known names like HKS, Edelbrock, etc. Going to go with a turbo or positive displacement S/C not centrifugal this time.

I am crazy excited to see what can be done with the new motor. The wait to see them crack the ECU is killing me.

Desertnate 03-14-2022 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnightsky (Post 3510539)
Seat time, more seat time, seat time, and then even more seat time.

This right here. It's a totally new platform for me and different type of car as well. Need to fix the nut behind the wheel.

Any immediate mods right now will be superficial. In nor particular order:

- Dabadge the Subaru letters off the trunk, debating the BRZ logo as well
- White corner markers
- Maybe a new shift knob
- Disable the silly ASD
- Replace the PS4's with AS tires in the fall.

Longer Range
- Second set of wheels/tires for track and autocross
- ?

I'm still learning the car, but for the most part I'm pretty happy. I wouldn't want to stiffen things up any more since it's a daily driver at this point. I'm a little hesitant to change the exhaust, because I don't want to make the car any louder for daily street and highway use. We'll just have to see as time goes on.

PBR 03-14-2022 10:27 AM

Going for feel, mostly DD with an occasional track day and "set it and forget it." Very smooth roads where I live.

On the car:
Bilstein B8
Swift Spec R
Cusco rear lower control arms.

On the way:

TWS T66-F wheels 18x8 (14.5 lbs)
HKS Spec L II
Duracon shift knob
Real Alcantara/leather steering wheel
Raceseng camber plates

euroshowoff 03-14-2022 10:41 AM

My delivery is supposed to arrive 06/2022....so I'm stacking parts already. Nothing major. This is a weekend warrior for me, but would like to see a few track days. I have a decent track about 30 mins away. I'd like my final product to be a better version of the STI build..

Running list of parts expected to get installed first couple of days..

oem jdm clear side markers (delivered)
oem jdm sti fender garnish (delivered)
oem brz floor liners (delivered)
oem jdm sti push start button (in transit)
oem jdm sti shift knob (in transit)
oem brz door scuff guards J131SCC000
oem brz trunk cargo liner J501SCC200
oem rear bumper applique E771SCC000
oem jdm STI exhaust 120mm tips
hks legamax Sound level: 124mm tips 82(Normal)/84(HKS) db
greddy supreme 114mm tips 82/83
Racecomp Yellows 2nd Gen Version
oem jdm sti pink springs
oem BBS STI Wheels or similar version

mr.whiskers 03-14-2022 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desertnate (Post 3510584)
This right hear. It's a totally new platform for me and different type of car as well. Need to fix the nut behind the wheel.

Any immediate mods right now will be superficial. In nor particular order:

- Dabadge the Subaru letters off the trunk, debating the BRZ logo as well
- White corner markers
- Maybe a new shift knob
- Disable the silly ASD
- Replace the PS4's with AS tires in the fall.

Longer Range
- Second set of wheels/tires for track and autocross
- ?

I'm still learning the car, but for the most part I'm pretty happy. I wouldn't want to stiffen things up any more since it's a daily driver at this point. I'm a little hesitant to change the exhaust, because I don't want to make the car any louder for daily street and highway use. We'll just have to see as time goes on.

Whats ASD

dragoontwo 03-14-2022 10:56 AM

The system to run the engine noise speaker. It's ASC though.

Panda Grahams 03-14-2022 11:33 AM

Going for an OEM+ DD build. Planning to keep the car forever as my "last hurrah" manual-gasoline powered car.

So far, the essentials:
18x8 RPF1s
Indy 500s (winters on for now)
HKS Hipermax S coilovers
Whiteline front end-links
Comp RS Catback
OEM STI trim (front, side, rear)
STI start button
STI center caps
LED upgrade all around
Raceseng shift knob
Clear side markers
Clutch spring delete
Tint

To-do:
Higher temp brake fluid and pads
Spoiler of some kind
Rear LCAs
Motor and trans mounts

Maybe someday:
AP sprint kit with two-piece rotors
E85 tune
Maybe an intake if dyno proven
Carbon driveshaft

LRNAD90 03-14-2022 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda Grahams (Post 3510595)
Planning to keep the car forever as my "last hurrah" manual-gasoline powered car.

Indy 500s (winters on for now)


Probably last longer if you didn't daily it in the winter? :iono:

Panda Grahams 03-14-2022 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LRNAD90 (Post 3510603)
Probably last longer if you didn't daily it in the winter? :iono:

I bought the car to drive it :iono:

Desertnate 03-14-2022 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3510592)
The system to run the engine noise speaker. It's ASC though.

Thanks, yes, ASC. It was called ASD on my last car.

Racecomp Engineering 03-14-2022 03:45 PM

Outside of product testing (which keeps us super busy these days), our shop cars usually end up as sort of a "clubsport" build. Suspension focused and track oriented but still very streetable.

Right now our 2022 BRZ has RCE Tarmac 2 coilovers, Endless brake pads, couple of bushings, and the STI JDM exhaust. More to come, possibly some Recaros.

My 2016 is a step more on the daily drive-able and weekend trip-able side of things. If our 2022 is a GT3 mine is more of a GTS...at least that's the idea. Keeping it quiet and a little more comfortable.

But again there's a lot of product testing going on with both cars and local partners, so some of that changes. My car is on a prototype coilover at the moment and the 2022 will get something similar soon too. I was installing and uninstalling suspension set ups probably monthly in 2021 on my car.

- Andrew

Yoshoobaroo 03-14-2022 03:54 PM

What's Your 2nd Gen Mod Path?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3510649)
Right now our 2022 BRZ has RCE Tarmac 2 coilovers, Endless brake pads, couple of bushings, and the STI JDM exhaust.


How is the JDM STI muffler? Enough as a stand-alone exhaust mod to get a satisfying noise? I’ve been debating it vs. waiting on the more tame aftermarket options to show for the FA24 (Greddy SP, Q300).

Racecomp Engineering 03-14-2022 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3510650)
How is the JDM STI muffler? Enough as a stand-alone exhaust mod to get a satisfying noise? I’ve been debating it vs. waiting on the more tame aftermarket options to show for the FA24 (Greddy SP, Q300).

Easily the best looking exhaust in our opinion, and definitely on the quieter side. Still breaking in though.

- Andrew

danson 03-14-2022 04:29 PM

So far.

Borla Catback
STI Aero Kit
JDM side markers
LED front bezel/fog lights
Most dealer accessories
Dashcam

Near future:

PPF/Ceramic

Long term:

Driver Mod.

I dont plan to do anything with suspension or engine honestly. wanting to keep it pretty pure.

dragoontwo 03-14-2022 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3510649)
Right now our 2022 BRZ has RCE Tarmac 2 coilovers, Endless brake pads, couple of bushings, and the STI JDM exhaust.

Out of curiosity, which bushings? What was the replacement?

Racecomp Engineering 03-14-2022 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3510659)
Out of curiosity, which bushings? What was the replacement?

We have the Whiteline rear adjustable upper control arm bushings installed as well as the STI toe arm and rear lower control arm, which both have nice sealed pillowballs.

- Andrew

kaesu 03-14-2022 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3510650)
How is the JDM STI muffler? Enough as a stand-alone exhaust mod to get a satisfying noise? I’ve been debating it vs. waiting on the more tame aftermarket options to show for the FA24 (Greddy SP, Q300).

could take a look at hks legamax premium. Looks to be about the same in terms of noise and size, but the tips are ever so slightly bigger and burnt . I think it's a few hundred cheaper too. Been contemplating getting one as well... But that sti price tag


Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda Grahams (Post 3510595)
Going for an OEM+ DD build.
HKS Hipermax S coilovers

Not sure if you have this yet, but if you do how are you liking it?

Panda Grahams 03-14-2022 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaesu (Post 3510665)
could take a look at hks legamax premium. Looks to be about the same in terms of noise and size, but the tips are ever so slightly bigger and burnt . I think it's a few hundred cheaper too. Been contemplating getting one as well... But that sti price tag




Not sure if you have this yet, but if you do how are you liking it?

Unfortunately delayed until April. I'll definitely post a write-up.

kaesu 03-15-2022 04:42 AM

Also going for an oem+ / dd build like so many of you guys on here are.

Current:
trans mount
rear diff collar mount insert
rear flexible draw stiffener
sti pinks
hks legamax axleback

future:
driver mod
coils of some sort. leaning towards kw/hks hipermax s
lightweight flywheel
wheels + tires
flex v-bars
engine mount (have cusco but might wait awhile before doing this)
chassis braces
aero pieces

timurrrr 03-15-2022 03:19 PM

Coilovers, wheels & tires, BBK and send it.

KillerBMotorsport 03-16-2022 03:11 PM

Thanks everyone. Love hearing what every one's plans are.

Simmons 03-17-2022 01:13 AM

MCS double adjustable coil-overs
Karcepts camber plates, and rear top hats.
17x9 RPF1
17x9 6UL
245 A052
JDL equal length and UEL (still testing)
PLM over pipe
PLM front pipe with hfc
Perrin cat back
Karcepts front sway bar
245 PS4S
Tinted windows
Vortex generator

Next
install race seat
Shorai battery
ECU TEC tune (when available)
Lighter exhaust

KillerBMotorsport 03-18-2022 08:15 AM

Anyone here have any inside info on anyone working on a tuning solution?

Pete 03-18-2022 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBMotorsport (Post 3511386)
Anyone here have any inside info on anyone working on a tuning solution?

2nd hand rumors only I am afraid.

I heard HKS is working on a turbo car but they are using a piggyback ecu, and last I heard from EcuTek is that they did not have a car yet to work on in the UK.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/59309363.jpg

KillerBMotorsport 03-22-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 3511397)
2nd hand rumors only I am afraid.

That's what I was afraid of :/

Anyone here tune Motec?

kaesu 03-22-2022 11:26 PM

https://www.hks-power.co.jp/en/picku...brz/index.html

Looks like the turbo kit is scheduled for this summer, and their ecu controller is under development it says

Nicad 03-26-2022 09:14 AM

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I haven't got mine yet, nor even sat in one, but am sold. Here is my list. I'd get rid of the piped in sound on day 1. Get Enkei RPF1 17" wheels and maybe put average stick tires with good turn in response. These weigh 15.2 pounds, reasoinably priced and very strong. I'd bet that shaves 7 pounds per corner. Lithium battery, probably less than half the weight of the stock one, take out the back seat and make a very lightweight dog seating area (No human would ever sit in that back seat anyway). Make a slide in Iphone holder up where it would be easy to reach. I'd like a roof rack with a quick detach setup for my Yakima High roller bike rack. I think that is it.

Edit....I have now got one. 6 speed low mile used car! (1,180 miles). Pumped. I think the stereo needs work. No Mods planned other than the iPhone holder.

andys_garage 05-10-2022 04:35 PM

Brake pads, camber bolts, hit the track, tighten the nut behind the wheel.


Side note what sku of the whiteline camber bolts do I need for the front of the 2nd gen?

10secdream 05-10-2022 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys_garage (Post 3522149)
Side note what sku of the whiteline camber bolts do I need for the front of the 2nd gen?

KCA414. 14mm camber bolt for the bottom strut hole.

OkieSnuffBox 05-10-2022 04:54 PM

I still won't get mine for a few more months at least, but it will be similar to my '15 BRZ.

Nice wheels (haven't decided what yet because of fitment stuff in the rear)
Some decently sticky tires.
Nice coilovers w/camber plates
Rear LCAs and possibly a toe link
Cat-back
OEM Audio upgrade whenever it finally shows it up

And maybe a tune when they are available. Just because I know the car will be driven so little by the time an issue shows up it will be long out of warranty.

DylanJZA 05-10-2022 05:47 PM

Current:

OE
-3M front bumper PPF
-Frameless auto-dimming mirror
-New Gazoo Racing AT shift knob
-New Gazoo Racing all weather floor mats
-New Gazoo Racing air filter
-New Gazoo Racing door handle protectors
-New Gazoo Racing key glove cover
-New Gazoo Racing seatbelt shoulder pads
-New Gazoo Racing sunshade
-New TRD radiator cap
-New TRD oil cap
-New mudguards
-New JDM front side markers

Aftermarket
-New Flexishield rocker PPF
-New Perrin 2.5” resonated cat-back exhaust
-New 20mm wheel spacers
-New APEX'i silicone intake elbow
-New magnetic oil drain plug
-New SPC front camber bolts
-Used SPC rear lower control arms

Future:

Waiting on springs from Eibach and then likely add their swaybars as well and some Winmax W2 pads and that's it for the foreseeable future i think. Unless I swap to a 4.30 or 4.45 rear end.

Frost 05-11-2022 04:15 AM

Car is used strictly as a track car first with occasional cruising while it still has comfort bits in it.

At delivery:
- PPF entire car + C-Quartz Skin
- TOM's duckbill spoiler (I wanted a little vanity)

After break in:
1. Spare set of track dedicated wheels - Enkei 17x8 TS-10s
2. Track dedicated rubber - currently on FREE set of Toyo R888Rs but likely to move to something long lasting in the enduro 200tw tire category like Hankook RS4s or Conti Extreme Contact Force.
3. Track pads - G-Loc R16s front, R12s rear
4. Brake fluid - Endless RB600 as Castrol SRF was hard to find
5. Upgraded diff fluid - Motul 300 Gear 75w90
6. Oil - Motul 8100 0w30 or 5w30

Track, track, data gather, track, track - now dial in what I might need.

7. Raceseng Camber Plates
8. SPC Camber Bolts

Track, track, data gather, track, track.

9. Maybe a proper data logger down the road.


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