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ft86cbx 07-04-2011 05:20 PM

Subaru FT86 still not have the green light!
 
According to Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior they are still undecided on its release (at least in Australia)!

Brisbane Times

So the decision of Subaru v Toyota may not be a decision for some! I wonder what other regions this applies to?

Nambo 07-05-2011 01:50 AM

Thanks for sharing the article ft86cbx, hopefully Nick and the Subaru team will bring the 86 down to Australia, the more options the better!

bigbcraig 07-05-2011 04:27 AM

On NASIOC, SOA has confirmed that a car will eventually get finished and sold in America, I'm 99% sure.

... So I think this title is quite misleading, and you're just looking for attention.
The car is definitely in development and will definitely be made and released in some regions, saying the project does not have a green light is false.



Nevertheless, sucks for Aussies if they do miss out on the Subaru version.

ft86cbx 07-05-2011 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbcraig (Post 49362)
On NASIOC, SOA has confirmed that a car will eventually get finished and sold in America, I'm 99% sure.

Read what I wrote! Hint: Keyword Australia...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbcraig (Post 49362)
... So I think this title is quite misleading, and you're just looking for attention.

WTF?? Get over it. I posted a valid link to an article discussing the FT86 with a Subaru spokesperson.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbcraig (Post 49362)
The car is definitely in development and will definitely be made and released in some regions, saying the project does not have a green light is false.

No shit! Of cours the car will be made and released in some regions! Read what I wrote again. Nothing misleading. FACT. The Subaru version does not have a green light in Australia according to this article. IMO it will go ahead, but thats just my opinion and has no bearing on anything.

bigbcraig 07-05-2011 08:20 AM

I read what you wrote and feel the thread title is inappropriate.

I still feel that way.

Sorry I'm not in the best mood right now.

iff2mastamatt 07-05-2011 10:10 AM

3rd quarter this year sounds sort of late to make a decision like this.

bofa 07-05-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 49379)
3rd quarter this year sounds sort of late to make a decision like this.

+1 either they are really slow-playing this or its not looking good for the Subie version to come out alongside the Scion/Toyota.

zigzagz94 07-05-2011 12:22 PM

Not surprised. Subaru of Australia has said all along they don't want to ruin their "All AWD" marketing with a RWD vehicle.

Spaceywilly 07-05-2011 01:35 PM

I doubt the Australian market is large enough to support a Toyota and a Subaru version. It makes sense for them to sell just one down there.

RRnold 07-05-2011 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbcraig (Post 49362)
On NASIOC, SOA has confirmed that a car will eventually get finished and sold in America, I'm 99% sure.

Can you post any links or any details since SOA seems to be tight-lipped.

ichitaka05 07-05-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 49451)
Can you post any links or any details since SOA seems to be tight-lipped.

Seriously, recently both Toyota & Subaru got so tight-lipped. I'm having hard time getting more info! I feel that, it's gonna be that way til Dec... :cry:

MTolump 07-05-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 49399)
I doubt the Australian market is large enough to support a Toyota and a Subaru after market parts version. It makes sense for them to sell just one down there.

Yea that is what I was thinking too. Sucks for the if they don't get Subaru though.

YeloFva 07-05-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 49386)
Not surprised. Subaru of Australia has said all along they don't want to ruin their "All AWD" marketing with a RWD vehicle.

ThatswhatImsaying :iono:

1660 07-06-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 49454)
Seriously, recently both Toyota & Subaru got so tight-lipped. I'm having hard time getting more info! I feel that, it's gonna be that way til Dec... :cry:

Since the earthquake and tsunami, Japan doesn't have enough electricity and factories are running at night and weekends to comply with electrical use restrictions. All the automakers are struggling to meet production, but realistically Japan is in deep dodo. The new models will probably be delayed.

Keep in mind that there are also financial problems.

Don't shoot!!! I'm only the messenger.

ft86cbx 07-06-2011 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1660 (Post 49472)
Since the earthquake and tsunami, Japan doesn't have enough electricity and factories are running at night and weekends to comply with electrical use restrictions. All the automakers are struggling to meet production, but realistically Japan is in deep dodo. The new models will probably be delayed.

Keep in mind that there are also financial problems.

Don't shoot!!! I'm only the messenger.

Is this actually confirmed to be built in Japan? With regards to Toyota, don't they have a big plant in the UK (Derby)? Im not sure that they are expecting such high volumes that the FT86 would be much affected by this even if its built in Japan. *Especially as theres no exact production date thats been committed to!

ichitaka05 07-06-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1660 (Post 49472)
Since the earthquake and tsunami, Japan doesn't have enough electricity and factories are running at night and weekends to comply with electrical use restrictions. All the automakers are struggling to meet production, but realistically Japan is in deep dodo. The new models will probably be delayed.

Keep in mind that there are also financial problems.

Don't shoot!!! I'm only the messenger.

Not gonna shoot ya... yet :bellyroll:

Giccin 07-06-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1660 (Post 49472)
Since the earthquake and tsunami, Japan doesn't have enough electricity and factories are running at night and weekends to comply with electrical use restrictions. All the automakers are struggling to meet production, but realistically Japan is in deep dodo. The new models will probably be delayed.

Keep in mind that there are also financial problems.

Don't shoot!!! I'm only the messenger.

:l I think someone... WANTS TO DIE. D:< !!!

Dark 07-06-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 49516)
:l I think someone... WANTS TO DIE. D:< !!!

and I think someone wants to kill. LMFAO.

[es vi: eks] 07-07-2011 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 49484)
Is this actually confirmed to be built in Japan? With regards to Toyota, don't they have a big plant in the UK (Derby)? Im not sure that they are expecting such high volumes that the FT86 would be much affected by this even if its built in Japan. *Especially as theres no exact production date thats been committed to!


Wasnt it going to be the Subaru Gumma Plant? Could had sworn I Read SOA said it ages ago. Mite had been in one of the FT threads that got locked on Nasoc?

Fly Guy 07-07-2011 08:37 AM

Here is a source:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20067592-48.html

Giccin 07-07-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Guy (Post 49563)

Quote:

Subaru hasn't officially commented on the price. But Japan's Nikkan Kogyo business daily said the company plans to price the car in the $20,000 range.


Ooooooo.... I wonder how much the STI version will cost.

Want.FR-S 07-07-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 49294)
According to Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior they are still undecided on its release (at least in Australia)!

Brisbane Times

So the decision of Subaru v Toyota may not be a decision for some! I wonder what other regions this applies to?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbcraig (Post 49362)
On NASIOC, SOA has confirmed that a car will eventually get finished and sold in America, I'm 99% sure.

... So I think this title is quite misleading, and you're just looking for attention.
The car is definitely in development and will definitely be made and released in some regions, saying the project does not have a green light is false.

Nevertheless, sucks for Aussies if they do miss out on the Subaru version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 49366)
Read what I wrote! Hint: Keyword Australia...

WTF?? Get over it. I posted a valid link to an article discussing the FT86 with a Subaru spokesperson.

No shit! Of cours the car will be made and released in some regions! Read what I wrote again. Nothing misleading. FACT. The Subaru version does not have a green light in Australia according to this article. IMO it will go ahead, but thats just my opinion and has no bearing on anything.

I just want to express my point of view here. The title of this thread is "Subaru FT86 still not have the green light!" To me, this sounds like Subaru has not committed to release the car "globally", and that was my understanding when I open the thread. Then when I read the news saying that the Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior they are still undecided on its release in Australia due to Toyota's big marketing effort, I thought: OK, so Subaru Australia may not release this car to Australia, but that does not mean Subaru corporate has delayed or stopped the development and release of the global market. So even in your response you hinted Australia related news, your title is indeed misleading. If you had written "Subaru FT86 still not have the green light to be released in Australia!" and we will not have this argument at all.

Now that here is a confirmed press release from Subaru saying that they will release FT86 in spring 2012 just proves this title wrong. Here is the link:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/07/s...odels-by-2016/

(copied from EyeZer0's thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1490)

Excerpted from the press release:

Alliance with Toyota
Development

Joint development: A jointly developed rear-wheel drive sports car will be launched in spring 2012. FHI will study enhancement of product appeal of the model toward the future.
(Hint: STI version?)

And to follow Giccin's comment, I wonder how much will the STI version cost too..... :iono:

WingsofWar 07-07-2011 06:18 PM

Motion-V plan sounds good for business....i think getting out of the AWD only industry is a good step into greener pastures. and Subaru has every reason to succeed. So its going to be pretty obvious that the Subaru ft86 will be available in Australia....even if right now the Australia market hasn't green lit it...its only a matter of time.

ft86cbx 07-08-2011 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 49590)
I just want to express my point of view here. The title of this thread is "Subaru FT86 still not have the green light!" To me, this sounds like Subaru has not committed to release the car "globally", and that was my understanding when I open the thread. Then when I read the news saying that the Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior they are still undecided on its release in Australia due to Toyota's big marketing effort, I thought: OK, so Subaru Australia may not release this car to Australia, but that does not mean Subaru corporate has delayed or stopped the development and release of the global market. So even in your response you hinted Australia related news, your title is indeed misleading. If you had written "Subaru FT86 still not have the green light to be released in Australia!" and we will not have this argument at all.

Now that here is a confirmed press release from Subaru saying that they will release FT86 in spring 2012 just proves this title wrong. Here is the link:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/07/s...odels-by-2016/

(copied from EyeZer0's thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1490)

Excerpted from the press release:

Alliance with Toyota
Development

Joint development: A jointly developed rear-wheel drive sports car will be launched in spring 2012. FHI will study enhancement of product appeal of the model toward the future.
(Hint: STI version?)

And to follow Giccin's comment, I wonder how much will the STI version cost too..... :iono:


FFS Talk about been ****** picky! :bonk:

Ok I missed Australia out of the thread title. Not intentional. But there was clear indication in the first line I was talking specifically about Australia. My bad I guess if it bothers you that much!

Considering how many threads go way of topic anyway and you choose to moan about this??


It proves the thread title wrong but not the thread detail. Again, picky much??

If I knew how to change the title I would change it to keep you happy ;)


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