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jm1681 08-16-2012 01:49 PM

A different kind of exhaust question...
 
I've often searched the internet for an answer to this question, but never really found an answer.

To me, it seems like whenever someone talks about exhaust sound/tone, they're always trying to make their exhaust throaty and deep. Personally though, I've never really liked the wall-of-bass kind of tone. I always preferred a shallow howl to a deep roar (Think original 350Z).

I guess the question is, if one takes performance out of the equation, how can an exhaust be "tuned" for pitch? I imagine smaller diameter pipes will produce a higher pitch, but are obviously more restrictive.

I was thinking of perhaps running two smaller diameter mufflers, in order to at least maintain the cross-sectional diameter of the primary piping. That way, flow isn't compromised, and the smaller pipes might bring about a higher pitched resonance.

Any ideas?

subatoy 08-16-2012 01:52 PM

back when I had my 370Z they were companies that would havee exhaust systems with different size resonators for louder applications etc.
I'd say it's all about the mufflers you use and resonators, maybe the diamatere of tube changes a bit but this sounds like a lot of money to be testing out til you get the right sound.

jm1681 08-16-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 383614)
...but this sounds like a lot of money to be testing out til you get the right sound.

That's exactly the problem I've had all these years ;)

I could just give something a try, but if it doesn't sound the way I intended, I'm humped >.<

Now I'm thinking about it, the Nameless setup DOES use very small diameter plumbing for it's two outlets, but it still has a bit more "boom" than I really want.

xjohnx 08-16-2012 02:45 PM

Jason @ Nameless has posted quite a bit about tuning exhausts for tone. Perhaps he can chime in.

Sportsguy83 08-16-2012 02:49 PM

See here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=95

dabocx 08-16-2012 02:52 PM

Yeah i want something a little more exotic sounding personally but thats hard to do with a flat 4.

Still the nameless system is my favorite so far and sounds dam good.


In my dreams this car would have come with a flat six. For anyone thats ever heard the porsche flat 6s with aftermarket exausts....mother of god

mike2100 08-16-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 383622)
That's exactly the problem I've had all these years ;)

I could just give something a try, but if it doesn't sound the way I intended, I'm humped >.<

Now I'm thinking about it, the Nameless setup DOES use very small diameter plumbing for it's two outlets, but it still has a bit more "boom" than I really want.

Have you heard the Nameless setup with their equal length header? Seems to me that eliminating the alternating nature of exhaust pulses of a UEL header would also eliminate some low frequency sound.
Thinking more about it, intuitively it seems the Nameless exhaust would be the highest pitch and less resonating design we've seen so far.

You could always just drive the Z car :slap: ;)

mike2100 08-16-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 383770)
Yeah i want something a little more exotic sounding personally but thats hard to do with a flat 4.

Still the nameless system is my favorite so far and sounds dam good.


In my dreams this car would have come with a flat six. For anyone thats ever heard the porsche flat 6s with aftermarket exausts....mother of god

On video the SRT exhaust sounds exotic. I can't wait to get mine installed to hear for myself.

Most Porsche flat 6s I hear at the track are obnoxiously loud and annoying, in my opinion of course.

xjohnx 08-16-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 383874)
Have you heard the Nameless setup with their equal length header? Seems to me that eliminating the alternating nature of exhaust pulses of a UEL header would also eliminate some low frequency sound.
Thinking more about it, intuitively it seems the Nameless exhaust would be the highest pitch and less resonating design we've seen so far.

You could always just drive the Z car :slap: ;)

the stock header is equal length.

mike2100 08-16-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 383885)
the stock header is equal length.

There is a ~30% difference in length. I remember Jason@Nameless stating so in one of his threads and Tainen repeating it. I mentioned that that fact should be added to a FAQ.

xjohnx 08-16-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 383894)
There is a ~30% difference in length. I remember Jason@Nameless stating so in one of his threads and Tainen repeating it. I mentioned that that fact should be added to a FAQ.


Ah, thanks.

jm1681 08-16-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 383758)

Thanks ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 383874)
Have you heard the Nameless setup with their equal length header?

I have not, but I will find it presently ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 383874)
You could always just drive the Z car :slap: ;)

That's a BIG negative on that one XD

xjohnx 08-16-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 383608)
Personally though, I've never really liked the wall-of-bass kind of tone. I always preferred a shallow howl to a deep roar (Think original 350Z).

The R32 sounded great from the factory too.

jm1681 08-16-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 384260)
The R32 sounded great from the factory too.

Great example :) Especially with the valve thingy disconnected ;)

On a semi-related note, I don't know if I was hallucinating, but did I see something in an exhaust post here about a lot of flow being trapped in the mid-pipe?

Maybe keep the stock muffler, and just switch to a higher-flowing mid-pipe?


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