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kiefferlmeridew 12-05-2021 11:20 PM

Window Scratches
 
Good evening everyone! I'm new to the forum, so please gime me a bit of leeway lol

Not sure if there's a thread already for what I'm wondering about but here it goes!

I have a 2013 BRZ, with the usual window scratches. I've heard that it's the guides getting crap all over them and causing it. Going to try and buff them out with cerium oxide tomorrow, as they aren't that bad. However, the question I am wondering is if anyone is rocking just the inner guides, and removed the outer. I've read that if you get the post 2013 weather stripping /guide for the door it can help drastically with the repeat scratching from occurring, but would love to hear some stories and things that have worked for everyone!

Thanks for letting me be part of this community! Super excited and loving my baby BRZ already!

Much love from Canada!

:thanks:

radroach 12-06-2021 12:04 AM

You might look into taking apart your door and trying to clean out the junk in your windows, and maybe find a clean window from a wrecker.

First I'd probably need to check to make sure you're using a proper polisher like a Rupes, or a G110, or a Torqx. A 3" backing plate. A quality polishing compound product like Ceriglass and not some alibaba cerium oxide, and the Carpro 3" rayon polishing pads. I say this because some of you guys seem ready to jump into a detail with some garbage you picked up from ebay or harbor freight, frightening. If you just ordered a bucket of brown cerium oxide powder, please stop right there.

I would be very careful with Ceriglass on these cars. Ceriglass is some nasty polishing stuff, very messy and slings everywhere (you'll want to tape off and cover everything) and rayon pads are very rough.. and Subaru BRZ / modern car glass is very soft.

I've used Carpro's Ceriglass and Carpro Ryon glass polishing pads only on the front windshield of my older 90's Toyota Camry. After a few passes with my DA buffer it fixed a lot of lateral or cobweb scratches that were caused by sand debris caught between the wiper and the glass. It would be important to note though, that modern car glass is softer than 90's car glass and so you might be careful to not work it too aggressively, but enough to break down the abrasive material.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKB006w1TE

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-21-2022 02:48 PM

I took my car to the dealer a month before the warranty ran out and got them to replace the windows, guide rails and weather stripping. Got rid of the scratches but I can see the lines on the windows and can tell it's only a matter of time until it happens again, so I don't think the post-2013 guides are any better. I just consciously roll the window down a lot less now, especially if it's dirty. Shouldn't be driving with windows down anyway due to all the brake dust and rubber crap you're breathing in

Ultramaroon 11-21-2022 04:29 PM

Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.

DarkPira7e 11-21-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3557530)
Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.

This was one of the first things I did with mine when I fixed door rattles. After years of frameless subaru doors, I knew it'd be a thing.

SCFD 11-21-2022 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3557508)
I took my car to the dealer a month before the warranty ran out and got them to replace the windows, guide rails and weather stripping. Got rid of the scratches but I can see the lines on the windows and can tell it's only a matter of time until it happens again, so I don't think the post-2013 guides are any better. I just consciously roll the window down a lot less now, especially if it's dirty. Shouldn't be driving with windows down anyway due to all the brake dust and rubber crap you're breathing in


How did you get it covered under warranty? I figured those would be considered normal wear items?

Ultramaroon 11-21-2022 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3557556)
This was one of the first things I did with mine when I fixed door rattles. After years of frameless subaru doors, I knew it'd be a thing.

Was my first. Holy kinematics, Batman! Each adjustment affects all the others.

Those felt pads are bullshit. Every time I handle one, I fantasize about creating a spring-loaded roller. I get it, though. Would be tough to hit the price point of the factory part.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-22-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SCFD (Post 3557577)
How did you get it covered under warranty? I figured those would be considered normal wear items?

I showed them a facebook thread with a bunch of people complaining of the same thing. They scheduled the appointment *shrug*

Spuds 11-26-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3557530)
Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.

Wait, so what did you actually do? Replace the guides and such or just adjust what was there? I just assumed everyone would have the scratches sooner or later.

Ultramaroon 11-27-2022 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3558075)
Wait, so what did you actually do? Replace the guides and such or just adjust what was there? I just assumed everyone would have the scratches sooner or later.

I adjusted the tracks and guides to find the minimum force on the pads that allow the window to raise and lower without rattling anywhere in it's travel. I can find the sweet spot more quickly now but it took me a long time to become familiar with how the whole system "wants" to be set.


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